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10th January 2017, 08:10 #11
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Regarding the hybrid engines, there is definitely road relevance. The main relevance I've seen if the Turbulent Jet Ignition. Achieving now up to 50% energy efficiency compared to 20-25%% ten years ago is a massive performance improvement. To apply this to road cars would be a huge leap forward in technology and halve the fuel consumption of any car. Now to apply this technology to HEV's or PHEV's would be even better, especially with a HEV. I currently drive a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. My fuel consumption is almost 0 because I have approximately 40km range in my battery and most of my journeys are 30km or less This enables me to get to work, charge my car for free at a charging point and back again using no fuel. Sometimes I have to drive like a granny to maximize efficiency but that's not the end of the world. Last year I topped up my PHEV 4 times. Once every 3 months and I am now approaching 15,000 km. Now applying TJI technology could reduce my costs even further.
So for a PHEV TJI is probably not going to make a huge diff for my scenario. Now for a HEV it will make a massive difference. Imagine achieving 150 miles to the gallon? Currently Toyota Prius and the like can get up to aorund 72 miles to the gallon. Imagine doubling that? Awesome!
The same applies for every day road cars really but there is a great balance to be struck for HEV's. F1 is more road relevant now than it ever has been and I think these engines will genuinely contribute to road technology. It may not be exactly the same technology pioneered but it should appear in some form.Last edited by The Black Knight; 10th January 2017 at 08:16.
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10th January 2017, 14:07 #12
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This is off topic, but I'd just like to note that all electric cars use plenty of fuel. It's just delivered down a wire and not at a pump. The power plant which creates the electricity uses a lot of fuel depending on the type - coal, fuel oil, natural gas, nuclear. The only ones that don't are solar and wind and there are darn few of those around the world.
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10th January 2017, 14:28 #13
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10th January 2017, 19:09 #16
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Monza was a very revealing race for Ferrari, they got to see the true nature of how bad their chassis was. Even with a powerful engine, if your chassis is poor relative to the competition in the aero department, it translates to slow times relative to the competition. The poor Ferrari chassis is why Redbull superseded Ferrari and why the Ferrari fades into the distance behind the Mercedes. They have the horse power but lack aerodynamic efficiency or the chassis is difficult to setup to get the most out of the engine power for most tracks this season.
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11th January 2017, 18:56 #17
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Dumb question:
What is a hybrid engine?" Lady - I'm in an awful dilemma.
Moe - Yeah, I never cared much for these foreign cars either."
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11th January 2017, 19:34 #18
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12th January 2017, 00:02 #19
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A misnomer.
Technically a diesel-electric locomotive could be considered a hybrid.
I still think that Jaguar should have pursued their turbine-electric CX-75. A weeny little jet engine running at constant speed and driving both the wheels and a charging system would have been interesting.
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14th January 2017, 18:03 #20
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Only solution is more teams. Everything else is a temporary bandage that won't change anything in the long run.
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