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    I think max avg speed limit is OK, but it has to be also avg between all drivers in particular class. It more fare.

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    Don´t think there´s gonna be many hay bales in NRF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jparker View Post
    I think max avg speed limit is OK, but it has to be also avg between all drivers in particular class. It more fare.
    Average speed limit means nothing if it can be slowed down by haybales...

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    Instead of haybales they could also randomly place pylons in the middle of the road. The drivers would then have to drift around them twice before they could continue, like they do at super specials.

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    A stage with fast section and slow section, with speed average inside limitation will be safer on the fast section?

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    hay balls give a stupid sensation of safety because they only reduce straight line speed, ok for the welsh that they cannot think anything else than sheep farming and mud stacking bogey times and hay balls are a solution, but not for the top of the sport.

    a 4th gear corner with bad camber and trees on the outside with no ditch in between is a million times worse than a 120mph straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    a 4th gear corner with bad camber and trees on the outside with no ditch in between is a million times worse than a 120mph straight.
    Yep. Makes the whole thing even more ridiculous. When was the last time we saw a proper accident on a straight bit of stage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJan View Post
    Yep. Makes the whole thing even more ridiculous. When was the last time we saw a proper accident on a straight bit of stage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    A stage with fast section and slow section, with speed average inside limitation will be safer on the fast section?
    Of course not, but this kind of stages are not common. For most rallies the stages don't have big ups and downs in terms of speed, so yes, average speed is good overview parameter of the stage, but should be used in conjunction with other parameters as well. If FIA wants limit, that's fine, it will not change much.
    As already mentioned, few hay balls and the stage will be within the limits.

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