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    difference is all these copycats have no idea about the sport, trolling is caused by their ignorance and stupidity combined, i am far more sophisticated than that.

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    Are you sure you are talking about me, or yourself? Poor soul

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    Sorry guys, just wanted to change the subject. I promise, no more VW discussions from my side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    You talk a lot of funny nonsense don't you?
    Especially regarding Msport/Ford.
    You called this nonsense? I call it facts:
    Year Driver Nat Team
    1977* Munari, Sandro IT Lancia
    1978* Alen, Markku FI Fiat, Lancia
    1979 Waldegard, Bjorn SE Ford, Mercedes
    1980 Rohrl, Walter DE Fiat
    1981 Vatanen, Ari FI Ford
    1982 Rohrl, Walter DE Opel
    1983 Mikkola, Hannu FI Audi
    1984 Blomqvist, Stig SE Audi
    1985 Salonen, Timo FI Peugeot
    1986 Kankkunen, Juha FI Peugeot
    1987 Kankkunen, Juha FI Lancia
    1988 Biasion, Massimo IT Lancia
    1989 Biasion, Massimo IT Lancia
    1990 Sainz, Carlos ES Toyota
    1991 Kankkunen, Juha FI Lancia
    1992 Sainz, Carlos ES Toyota
    1993 Kankkunen, Juha FI Toyota
    1994 Auriol, Didier FR Toyota
    1995 McRae, Colin GB Subaru
    1996 Makinen, Tommi FI Mitsubishi
    1997 Makinen, Tommi FI Mitsubishi
    1998 Makinen, Tommi FI Mitsubishi
    1999 Makinen, Tommi FI Mitsubishi
    2000 Gronholm, Marcus FI Peugeot
    2001 Burns, Richard GB Subaru
    2002 Gronholm, Marcus FI Peugeot
    2003 Solberg, Petter NO Subaru
    2004 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2005 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2006 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2007 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2008 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2009 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2010 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2011 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2012 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2013 Ogier, Sebastien FR Volkswagen
    2014 Ogier, Sebastien FR Volkswagen
    2015 Ogier, Sebastien FR Volkswagen
    2016 Ogier, Sebastien FR Volkswagen

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    Ogier and Prokop had a deal in place to miss Monte and run Polos this season. http://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/o...w-team-872119/

    Very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomhlord View Post
    Ogier and Prokop had a deal in place to miss Monte and run Polos this season. http://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/o...w-team-872119/

    Very interesting.
    This is not new, this info was discussed here one week ago. Article doesnt brings any news than which was mentioned in that czech articles. I hoped that Evans should dig more from it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jparker View Post
    You called this nonsense? I call it facts:
    Year Driver Nat Team
    1977* Munari, Sandro IT Lancia
    1978* Alen, Markku FI Fiat, Lancia
    1979 Waldegard, Bjorn SE Ford, Mercedes
    1980 Rohrl, Walter DE Fiat
    1981 Vatanen, Ari FI Ford
    1982 Rohrl, Walter DE Opel
    1983 Mikkola, Hannu FI Audi
    1984 Blomqvist, Stig SE Audi
    1985 Salonen, Timo FI Peugeot
    1986 Kankkunen, Juha FI Peugeot
    1987 Kankkunen, Juha FI Lancia
    1988 Biasion, Massimo IT Lancia
    1989 Biasion, Massimo IT Lancia
    1990 Sainz, Carlos ES Toyota
    1991 Kankkunen, Juha FI Lancia
    1992 Sainz, Carlos ES Toyota
    1993 Kankkunen, Juha FI Toyota
    1994 Auriol, Didier FR Toyota
    1995 McRae, Colin GB Subaru
    1996 Makinen, Tommi FI Mitsubishi
    1997 Makinen, Tommi FI Mitsubishi
    1998 Makinen, Tommi FI Mitsubishi
    1999 Makinen, Tommi FI Mitsubishi
    2000 Gronholm, Marcus FI Peugeot
    2001 Burns, Richard GB Subaru
    2002 Gronholm, Marcus FI Peugeot
    2003 Solberg, Petter NO Subaru
    2004 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2005 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2006 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2007 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2008 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2009 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2010 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2011 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2012 Loeb, Sebastien FR Citroen
    2013 Ogier, Sebastien FR Volkswagen
    2014 Ogier, Sebastien FR Volkswagen
    2015 Ogier, Sebastien FR Volkswagen
    2016 Ogier, Sebastien FR Volkswagen
    you forgot two manu championships for ford in 2006 and 2007

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barreis View Post
    you forgot two manu championships for ford in 2006 and 2007
    I know, but without driver's title, this is half the success. That's why I didn't paste the Maune stats. but OK point taken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    True, but the factory teams failure vs a private team would be a different level.

    The previous VW domination was really more (their) Ogier's superiority.
    Fixed that for you :-)
    Markku Alén, 1978 World Champion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karukera View Post
    Fixed that for you :-)
    I can't wait to see him doing the same for Ford.

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