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    Quote Originally Posted by jparker View Post
    Well, whoever is scared, it will make all rules available to protect them, and will keep crying "that's not fare". Real contenders are saying "bring it in". That's the difference between winner and looser.
    i suggest you do not confuse movies with real life kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    i suggest you do not confuse movies with real life kid.
    Thank you movie star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jparker View Post
    OK, that's fine then. But one who wants to prove it's the best of the best, should welcome more competition, because it will prove more.
    You want make Hyundai and Citroën change their stance anyway, so You'd better get used to the reality instead of writing walls of text about how coward they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    You want make Hyundai and Citroën change their stance anyway, so You'd better get used to the reality instead of writing walls of text about how coward they are.
    ... and you think I'm still hoping for VW? Sometime "Stupid is NOT as stupid does".

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    Thoroughly bizarre reaction to this on the forum. These guys are running multi-million pound WRC teams. Not charities. Like NOT says this is real life - not some idealistic alternate universe.

    I said it before, if Citroen or whoever beat this VW then people will say "you beat a privateer, who cares". But if they lose the whole thing switches around and they give huge PR to a rival manufacturer who paid a fraction of what you did. They also have to explain to their bosses why they got beaten by a team they allowed in. They have nothing at all to gain from a private VW being in the championship, except in the eyes of a few hardcore rally fans.
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    Unfortunately, that's what happens when modern rulesets rely on the manufacturer paying a fee to allow their car to be eligible for a specific series. In circuit racing, IMSA and the WEC has a similar issue on a smaller scale, where you can't run your car without paying a hefty fee to the organisers (and that's on top of the original homologation fee).

    Unfortunately, building an eligible car is no longer enough. Pity for us as fans, but you can hardly blame them.

    I hope a compromise can be reached, but I won't hold my breath.
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    Simmi, Whether my comments are real or not is anyone's guess, but gon't forget that we have NO NO PASS YES.
    Are Ford and Toyota living in the Wonderland too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jparker View Post
    Simmi, Whether my comments are real or not is anyone's guess, but gon't forget that we have NO NO PASS YES.
    Are Ford and Toyota living in the Wonderland too?
    I think you're making too much out of one journalist's piece. What these teams say in public is only a small percentage of the real story. Malcolm hasn't gone on record so there's nothing to say. You can't include Ford in your argument.

    Toyota know they are probably not on the ultimate pace this year. If Tommi thought they could win rallies maybe his tune would change. Maybe it's beneficial to him to be on the good side of EVEN. Who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmi View Post
    They also have to explain to their bosses why they got beaten by a team they allowed in. They have nothing at all to gain from a private VW being in the championship, except in the eyes of a few hardcore rally fans.
    You can see it otherwise. This short “private” VW programme isn’t that far away from past rules exceptions like last year Citroen campaign or the first Mini season. Besides, current rules are way to strict for rally car homologation, including WRC’s, and this could be a fine opportunity for FIA to review them.

    Anyway, I’m disappointed to see that most criticism comes form brand x or y fans, unable to see WRC bigger interest and that this VW Motorsport attempt could be the ticket to get 5 manus next year…
    Rally addict since 1982

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    its not the same as Citroens previous year.Is totally different with a car which was already homologated,and asked for 1 year off with limited program through PHsport to prepare for 2017.

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