[WRC] News & Rumours (part V) 2017

[Rally Power]

You can look at ewrc results page to see I'm not exagerating. Probaly you forgot to take off SS1 and SS16 kms, both cancelled, in your calculations.
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results....nte-Carlo-2017
And if we take off the 43s Ogier lost on SS3, the difference rise to 0.76, much closer to reality.

[dimviii]

You can look at ewrc results page to see I'm not exagerating. Probaly you forgot to take off SS1 and SS16 kms, both cancelled, in your calculations.
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results....nte-Carlo-2017
And if we take off the 43s Ogier lost on SS3, the difference rise to 0.76, much closer to reality.

your mistake is that you compare faster 2017 wrc driver with Breen.
Breen is not the fastest driver with 2016 car you can have.
So you cant have a ''worthy'' number sec/km
We have to wait for next rallies.

[Rally Power]

your mistake is that you compare faster 2017 wrc driver with Breen.
Breen is not the fastest driver with 2016 car you can have.
So you cant have a ''worthy'' number sec/km
We have to wait for next rallies.

You’re obviously not paying attention and I’m not mistaken: someone else posted the overall difference between Ogier and Breen. I’ve said that difference it’s not accurate because it takes the 43s Ogier lost in SS3. Besides, I’ve mentioned that the most reliable differences between '16 and '17 cars on this rally come from dry SS13, 14 and 15, were Breen lost time to Evans, Sordo and Lefebvre, at a time he was trying to save 4th place.

[Archie Gillaine]

Wait until the end of the season to make a valid comparison; 1 event, and such a specialised one as the Monte is unwise, and pretty inaccurate.

[stefanvv]

You’re obviously not paying attention and I’m not mistaken: someone else posted the overall difference between Ogier and Breen. I’ve said that difference it’s not accurate because it takes the 43s Ogier lost in SS3. Besides, I’ve mentioned that the most reliable differences between '16 and '17 cars on this rally come from dry SS13, 14 and 15, were Breen lost time to Evans, Sordo and Lefebvre, at a time he was trying to save 4th place.

Yeah I did posted this comparison. But wasn't me speculating before season start for insane differences like 1.5 - 2 seconds per km. Come back to earth for awhile.

[Rally Power]

Wait until the end of the season to make a valid comparison; 1 event, and such a specialised one as the Monte is unwise, and pretty inaccurate.

Jesus, no one’s saying that the difference won't change during season. Obviously it'll, eventually attending much bigger numbers on last season rallys. But that shouldn't unable anyone to get a first indication already from MC.
Honestly, this "MC doesn't mean anything" and "we've got to wait for Mexico" are crappy sound bytes. All events counts and they’ll be take into consideration for the season evolution. Otherwise, teams should be testing and developing their cars until April or May and only then WRC season should be initiated...

PS: stefan, I've mentioned the difference would be 1s at the start of the season, getting close to 2s at the end. There's still plenty of time to see if I was right and I'll be the first one to admit if I wasn't. Still, the acurate figure on this MC seems to be much more closer to 0.75 than the 0.6 you've mentioned. Now let's talk about anything else before everybody switches to tennis...

[itix]

Goodnight Guys, new to Forum. I'm from Barbados if you know where that is.. lol On the Rally Topic, do any of you believe that Seb was handed the win in Monte due to the fact that Neuville had problems?

Welcome to the forum!

Didn't he not damage his suspension and as a result have a flat tire?

No man. He went sideways into a concrete block and he severed the ball joint on what i believe was the toe adjustment arm (don't quote me on that though... kinda hard to see on video).

[Grundo Farb]

Jesus, no one’s saying that the difference won't change during season. Obviously it'll, eventually attending much bigger numbers on last season rallys. But that shouldn't unable anyone to get a first indication already from MC.
Honestly, this "MC doesn't mean anything" and "we've got to wait for Mexico" are crappy sound bytes. All events counts and they’ll be take into consideration for the season evolution. Otherwise, teams should be testing and developing their cars until April or May and only then WRC season should be initiated...

PS: stefan, I've mentioned the difference would be 1s at the start of the season, getting close to 2s at the end. There's still plenty of time to see if I was right and I'll be the first one to admit if I wasn't. Still, the acurate figure on this MC seems to be much more closer to 0.75 than the 0.6 you've mentioned. Now let's talk about anything else before everybody switches to tennis...

I think we need to wait until the start of next season before we can make any comparisons about this season. Or maybe until WRC 7 comes out on PS4/XBox, then we can have the real indication of the speed difference.

[SubaruNorway]

Welcome to the forum!



No man. He went sideways into a concrete block and he severed the ball joint on what i believe was the toe adjustment arm (don't quote me on that though... kinda hard to see on video).

Split the rim as well

[smsgrafica]

Everybody (exept breen) was in a new car no?
Don't exaggarate please. It's Ogier, he settles in quit quick

Every driver, including Breen, has tested the 2017 cars for the best part of last year.

The only difference is that Latvala & Ogier had to change teams and had therefore much less time testing their NEW CARS. Especially Ogier, since he only did 5 days, 1 short on gravel, 2 on snow and 2 on asphalt in Monte conditions.

Latvala on the other hand could test way more, because Toyota didn't have any testing limitations.

All this means that Ogier had the least experience in his 2017 car of all the drivers.