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    Get New Zealand back in the calender where it belongs. We don't need another European event

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    what about bringing back longer events? It seems that there are less and less competitive km... and the events are over before we get excited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiderem View Post
    what about bringing back longer events? It seems that there are less and less competitive km... and the events are over before we get excited.
    Doubt it'll happen, but I hope we could at least go back to having a full days rallying on a sunday. 3 stages at most on a sunday morning is pathetic, considering they are usually shortish stages as well

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    Yes, Watson. Spain is currently that kind of a rally, where cars go from gravel kit to asphalt after day 1.
    Last edited by Tarmop; 5th May 2017 at 19:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    Yes, Watson. Spain is currently that kind of a rally, where cars go from gravel kit to asphalt after day 1.
    Interesting, cheers man.

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    I was browsing old itineraries and I stumbled upon the fact that early 2000's rallies had more unique stages rather than two identical loops of three each day. When did the stage variety decline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.mandzij View Post
    I was browsing old itineraries and I stumbled upon the fact that early 2000's rallies had more unique stages rather than two identical loops of three each day. When did the stage variety decline?

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    [WRC] News & Rumours (part V) 2017

    In the early 90's Rally Finland had no repeated stages. Probably because the roads would be in too bad condition after 200 cars to run again. In late 90's the competitor number came down and repeated stages came back. Also the service park rule tightened the route. And I would think it's cheaper and easier to run a stage twice than to run two individual stages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.mandzij View Post
    I was browsing old itineraries and I stumbled upon the fact that early 2000's rallies had more unique stages rather than two identical loops of three each day. When did the stage variety decline?

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    In the past repeated stages was more an exception than a rule. 1986 1000 lakes had a stage that was repeated even three times (Ehikki) http://juwra.com/finland_1986_itinerary.html . San Remo 1987 had also a lot of repeated stages http://juwra.com/sanremo_1987_itinerary.html . FIA wanted also to cut the days when rallies were run to 3 days.

    From 1997 with the introduction of world rally cars rallies became more clover leaf format with few stages in the morning and return to the service. Then a lunch and a “take a dump” break and in the afternoon morning stages repeated. The service became also more centralized with no remote service. The total stage length has also decreased during the years. Nice statistics from juwra.com http://juwra.com/stats_event_stage_mileage.html . 1977 New Zeeland with 2157 km of stages.
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    Maybe organizer could run the stage in 1 direction in the morning and the reverse direction in the afternoon? Theoretically 2 different stages, but only 1 road to secure and provide TV arrangement... Same for the spectator...

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