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    Quote Originally Posted by danon View Post
    - all it takes to crack someone is make him uncofortable... and wait...

    in human psychology the breaking point is a moment of stress in which a person breaks down or a situation becomes critical and the intensity of environmental stress necessary to bring this on varies from individual to individual

    the rest is history
    Latvala had the same ''crack'' problems at whole carrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJan View Post
    You think that VW purposely made their driver uncomfortable from the moment they employed him? That's a pretty wild conspiracy theory, I'm interested in why you think they'd do that.
    it's as simple as that - Ogier is a gold mine for any investor

    do not be surprised if Ott starts getting uncomfy too
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    Quote Originally Posted by danon View Post
    it's as simple as that - Ogier is a gold mine for any investor
    For that to make sense then it would have required Latvala to be threatening him in at least a few rallies from the start of his VW employment. This was his first season:

    Round 1 - retired, crash. Ogier 2nd
    Round 2 - 4th, Ogier won
    Round 3 - 16th, Ogier won
    Round 4 - 3rd, Ogier won
    Round 5 - 3rd, Ogier 2nd
    Roudn 6 - won, Ogier 10th
    Round 7 - 3rd, Ogier won

    And it goes on. As far as crackpot theories go you've really got a doozy, it's so good that even your reason for it doesn't make sense.
    You're so beige, you probably think this signature is about someone else.

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    ^@dimviii
    Tommi has a big influence on Latvala and can finally make him a champ.
    He is like the Master Yoda to Luke - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmGhSdHJ41U

    ^@Mr Jan
    Stats...
    Sometimes one need a small input or a thrill to make a B-I-G difference... turning the stats upside down making it a big time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danon View Post
    ^@Mr Jan
    Stats...
    Sometimes one need a small input or a thrill to make a B-I-G difference... turning the stats upside down making it a big time.
    Yeah, sometimes. As in, sometimes Ogier hasn't been quickest....but most of the time he has, despite running first on road etc. etc.

    I don't like the guy (trust me, JML is one of my favourite drivers and he's defintely quick) but you're a fool if you try to argue that Ogier hasn't been the quickest out of the two.
    You're so beige, you probably think this signature is about someone else.

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    Well, he is definitely quick and probably the best universal driver, but mostly he is clever and mentally strong and that is his key to success. When is rivals break under pressure, he does not (to finish 1st you first have to finish). So you can say he is the quickest but thankfully on a good day almost every driver can be quicker or equally quick...we just need more of those days. We shouldn't also forget that he has only used the best available equipment so far, last one built mostly to (by) him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    Ogier is a more consistent driver. Quicker... maybe not.
    I guess You missed 2015 wrc season?
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJan View Post
    Yeah, sometimes... but you're a fool if you try to argue that Ogier hasn't been the quickest out of the two.
    I never did. And will never do. You didn't get my point. Take a look at the GIF again and think of Ott vs Ogier. Could the history repeat itself.

    For the records: All is based on my sixth chakra who says Ott feels at ease driving the Ford than Ogier. Ford is not Ogier's lethal weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danon View Post
    Ford is not Ogier's lethal weapon.
    ..... YET!

    The Skoda wasn't Ogier's lethal weapon either but come Sardinia he was setting a fastest stage time in a S2000. I think by Sardinia Seb O will have discovered the limit of the Fiesta so that he can challenge for 1st without breaking it, something he does better than anyone competing currently. As for Ott, I think he will step up to a new level seeing how the best approaches the job at close quarters.
    Kris Meeke got fired -PSG so terrified they quit!

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    People forget that even Latvala have much more km on new cars than Ogier. Let him learn the car and teach the car.... i think in Tour de Corse and Portugal we will see much more from him. He is smart, 18pts is better than 0, why push if no total confidence in car yet?

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