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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJan View Post
    That is true, but it's interesting to see how few stages Ogier has won this year and still won the championship with an event to spare. Not a huge surprise though, it's been clear that one of his best attributes is consistency and the ability to get good results while others crash etc. Also a big help that the Fiesta has been fairly reliable...at least, as far as I can remember.
    True but Tommeke has valid point. Add to that that nowadays You even have events which are all about one 50 km long stage accompanied by number of shorter ones and a bunch of superspecials. In the end it can be enough to win one stage and to control the rest.

    Another point is that we've had a situation this year which is rather uncommon in the history of the sport when the domminant driver (by speed) is making so many mistakes that he can't take the title.
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    Autosport reporting that Evans will be an M-Sport driver in 2018 and that Ogier is likely to be too.
    Job well done Malcolm.
    Wonder if this means Ford are going to up their stakes in the project.
    Last edited by car; 31st October 2017 at 18:55. Reason: Horrific spelling first time around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Another point is that we've had a situation this year which is rather uncommon in the history of the sport when the domminant driver (by speed) is making so many mistakes that he can't take the title.
    Yep, compare the DNF's for Ogier (I think just Finland) and then what everyone else has had. The same goes for Tanak, I'd say that the guys at M-Sport fully deserve whatever bonus they get for delivering such a reliable car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post




    Gary made them already, by my request
    I like statistics Funny to see Ogier "leading" both!

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    Of course it helps the more recent drivers that they can win stages even after 'retiring' from the rally.
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    Classic case of, "To finish First, first you must finish."

    It's no good being fastest if you then crash or break your car.

    There's more to rallying than pure speed. A lot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    True but Tommeke has valid point. Add to that that nowadays You even have events which are all about one 50 km long stage accompanied by number of shorter ones and a bunch of superspecials. In the end it can be enough to win one stage and to control the rest.

    Another point is that we've had a situation this year which is rather uncommon in the history of the sport when the domminant driver (by speed) is making so many mistakes that he can't take the title.
    One or more drivers can win all stages, but retire one of the days. In all rallies, theoretically oc. But very much what has happened this year with more equal conditions with cars. That gives not many more stages to win for a WDC. I think the Rally2 rules remade the statistics.
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    [WRC] News & Rumours (part V) 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by MrJan View Post
    Of course it helps the more recent drivers that they can win stages even after 'retiring' from the rally.
    Or makes it harder for a single driver to get stage wins because there's more stage winning drivers on the last day
    Last edited by AnttiL; 31st October 2017 at 20:07.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car View Post
    Autosport reporting that Evans will be an M-Sport driver in 2018 and that Ogier is likely to be too.
    Job well done Malcolm.
    Wonder if this means Ford are going to up their stakes in the project.
    Weren't they reporting a couple of weeks ago that Tanak was definitely staying at M-Sport too? I don't put too much faith in Autosport as a source of accurate information, like most of the media they seem to be more about attention-seeking headlines than facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    Weren't they reporting a couple of weeks ago that Tanak was definitely staying at M-Sport too? I don't put too much faith in Autosport as a source of accurate information, like most of the media they seem to be more about attention-seeking headlines than facts.
    Agree. When it can be confirmed we will know. This is just predictions out of press conference where Neuville said that guys will have some announcements in few hours, days, weeks... Evans just look Wilson and say nothing. Ogier said he have 3 options, M-Sport, Citroen & to stay at home. He will reveal that in Australia time... Wilson said he is still discus and that Evans will be okay..

    Nothing new actually...

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