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    Quote Originally Posted by Grundo Farb View Post
    Er Not entirely true. The majority of the field are ASN class cars which are National/Regional Cars as per the FIA regs. If you look the majority of them are AP4 cars. A lot of these cars would be in the National field as well. The same would apply in New Zealand.
    There is going to be quite a good field in the attached national round as well as the NSW and QLD State Championship fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Sarrazin Motorsport was competing this year, also in WRC2. They have Skoda Fabia R5 and Hyundai i20 R5. So no problem...
    Nice, thanks for the info, I didn't know it. Anyway this is still a step forward for him. The support of a manufacturer does not come often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbmarcus21 View Post
    2018 Rally Sweden road program = 19SS + 314.51kms Norway loop DAY1 & new SS Torntorp + Torsby Sprint on DAY2 → http://bit.ly/2ysJSOv

    Only 314km SS.......oi oi oi...Is it that the kiddies are too tired? Or is there a rule now limiting max SS distance?
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    I dont understand it too, why they are lowering the ammounts of kms...

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    http://www.motorsport-total.com/rall...6-Englisch.pdf

    The total distance of the special stages shall be between 300 km and 500 km.
    - A minimum ratio of 25% of special stages shall be respected on the overall distance of the event.
    - There shall be no single special stage minimum or maximum distance. However, there shall be no more
    than 80 km of special stages between visits to service parks or tyre fitting zones.
    - No one stage or part of a stage may be run more than twice in a rally, super special stages excluded.
    I think the 80 km rule makes it hard to make longer rallies. If you do 80+80 on a friday, 80+80 on saturday and another 80 on sunday, you get 400 kms, plus some km's for a thursday super special. Or if you can find enough long stages close to a service park, you may have time to do three legs on a day

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    http://www.motorsport-total.com/rall...6-Englisch.pdf



    I think the 80 km rule makes it hard to make longer rallies. If you do 80+80 on a friday, 80+80 on saturday and another 80 on sunday, you get 400 kms, plus some km's for a thursday super special. Or if you can find enough long stages close to a service park, you may have time to do three legs on a day
    What rule is that? Never heard of it. But I´m getting old ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    What rule is that? Never heard of it. But I´m getting old ...
    13.1.2
    The total distance of the special stages shall be between 300 km and 500 km.
    - A minimum ratio of 25% of special stages shall be respected on the overall distance of the event.
    - There shall be no single special stage minimum or maximum distance. However, there shall be no more than 80 km of special stages between visits to service parks or tyre fitting zones.
    - No one stage or part of a stage may be run more than twice in a rally, super special stages excluded
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    I think the 80 km rule makes it hard to make longer rallies. If you do 80+80 on a friday, 80+80 on saturday and another 80 on sunday, you get 400 kms, plus some km's for a thursday super special. Or if you can find enough long stages close to a service park, you may have time to do three legs on a day
    They don't need to visit service park, it can be tire fitting zone also.
    And who says that there can be only two loops and not three loops of 80km?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    They don't need to visit service park, it can be tire fitting zone also.
    And who says that there can be only two loops and not three loops of 80km?
    Stages can only normally be used twice.

    To find a third loop would be expensive and difficult for organisers (equipment, markshalls etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    They don't need to visit service park, it can be tire fitting zone also.
    And who says that there can be only two loops and not three loops of 80km?
    Like I said above, you can have more, but usually the liaisons to the service are so long that there's no time to do a third leg. Of course you could do three legs with just refuel and tyre refitting but a rally like that would probably be disliked by the drivers and be dropped from the series.

    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    Stages can only normally be used twice.

    To find a third loop would be expensive and difficult for organisers (equipment, markshalls etc)
    True. Only Super Specials can be run more than twice. And it's also sadly true that the decreased popularity of rally makes it harder for organizers to find people to run stages. Also longer rallies would be more expensive for the teams which could result in teams dropping out. Also especially more expensive for privateers.

    Also adding that rallies have been for a couple of years now 300-370 kms long, usually closer to 300 than 370, it's not like this is a new thing for 2018.

    The 80 km per leg rule came into effect in 2010. Before that the maximum length was 400 kms, and even 360 km for some years.

    EDIT: I also forgot the limited tyre rule. If you made a really long route with three legs per day, would the cars run out of fresh tyres?
    EDIT2: Found another rule concerning tyres: A maximum of 7 tyre changes is permitted on any one rally
    Last edited by AnttiL; 25th October 2017 at 08:55.

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