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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSS View Post
    Are you really serious?? Please inform us others where Ford/M-sport has been is way back in terms of speed before Catalunya?
    On all events where Meeke, Latvala, Neuville had tech issues and had to retire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jparker View Post
    On all events where Meeke, Latvala, Neuville had tech issues and had to retire.
    Meeke in Tour De Corse, Latvala in Poland and Finland, Neuville in...? M-Sport didn't win those three rallies.

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    Let's see. The Polo was tailor made to Ogier's driving style (like the DS3 and the C4 were to Loeb's). On the other hand, the Fiesta was developed by different drivers (mainly Tanak, Matt Wilson and to a lesser extent Ostberg). Ogier had to adapt to a pre existing situation. Plus, the M Sport Fords were always made to work with different styles of driving and not purpose built for a single driver like the VW and the Loeb Citroen. So, this explains why Ogier is not dominant anymore. On the contrary, this year the car that has been proven to fit someone like a glove is the i20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Meeke in Tour De Corse, Latvala in Poland and Finland, Neuville in...? M-Sport didn't win those three rallies.
    Well, you are actually further more making my point here, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Meeke in Tour De Corse, Latvala in Poland and Finland, Neuville in...? M-Sport didn't win those three rallies.
    It`s not worth showing the facts that M-sport currently has a top car both speed and reliability vise on all surfaces to someone who apparently has been bullied as a kid by some Ford owners or failed to get Malcom Wilsons autograph sometime or whatever the reason is for not seeing what`s going on. I`m not a M-sport/Ford fan by no means but still it`s clear they have a very good car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macebig View Post
    Let's see. The Polo was tailor made to Ogier's driving style (like the DS3 and the C4 were to Loeb's). On the other hand, the Fiesta was developed by different drivers (mainly Tanak, Matt Wilson and to a lesser extent Ostberg). Ogier had to adapt to a pre existing situation. Plus, the M Sport Fords were always made to work with different styles of driving and not purpose built for a single driver like the VW and the Loeb Citroen. So, this explains why Ogier is not dominant anymore. On the contrary, this year the car that has been proven to fit someone like a glove is the i20.
    Are you saying Ogier needs to get use to team and car for entire season? What kind of cham is he then? Mikkelsen drove Citroen few times, and got 2nd in Germany. Please stop this silly excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jparker View Post
    Are you saying Ogier needs to get use to team and car for entire season? What kind of cham is he then? Mikkelsen drove Citroen few times, and got 2nd in Germany. Please stop this silly excuses.
    Mikkelsen did two full rallies before that. Ogier won his first rally in the Fiesta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Mikkelsen did two full rallies before that. Ogier won his first rally in the Fiesta.
    Yep, plus Andreas was absolutely nowhere in his first two outings in the C3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSS View Post
    It`s not worth showing the facts that M-sport currently has a top car both speed and reliability vise on all surfaces to someone who apparently has been bullied as a kid by some Ford owners or failed to get Malcom Wilsons autograph sometime or whatever the reason is for not seeing what`s going on. I`m not a M-sport/Ford fan by no means but still it`s clear they have a very good car.
    If you measure potential of WRC car based on ranking, you are way off. Ford will be cham, so what? Does it make it best car? Of course not. Proper Tech Benchmarking will put Ford way back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    Yep, plus Andreas was absolutely nowhere in his first two outings in the C3.

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    So what? He needed one event to get use to it. Ogier need how much? 2-3 years?

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