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    So backwards. "Let's spend a fortune changing the regs and cars to make them faster and more exciting...then we'll tame all the stages to make them slower and filled with stupid chicanes to make them boring".
    You're so beige, you probably think this signature is about someone else.

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    Well, again that stupid 130km/h limit. 7 different stages in Finland had over 130km/h avaerage speed, 3 stages had speeds between 125-130km/h, two stages had 123km/h and 115km/h. I didn't include the Harju city stage.

    So based on that I'd guess we'd have nearly the entire Rally Finland above 130km/h, if the route would be the same.

    Make them more powerful, they said. Make them faster, they said. Bloody retards.
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    ridiculous
    is an understatement...
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    Now, I´m not disagree. However faster cars can be used and looked upon even on slower stages. Read me right. It´s not the average speed, it´s going flat out in 6th gear for several hundreds of meters one could avoid.
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    To me it's not even that, so much as defining an event's safety purely in terms of speed. There are straight sections that are perfectly safe and slow spots that are dangerous. The incident in Monte Carlo was on a stage with an average speed of what, 100kph? 105kph at most.

    Can speed make it more dangerous? Sure, without any the cars can't hurt anyone. But it's far from the only factor and it seems daft to be legislating it in such a binary manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Now, I´m not disagree. However faster cars can be used and looked upon even on slower stages. Read me right. It´s not the average speed, it´s going flat out in 6th gear for several hundreds of meters one could avoid.
    I kind of agree. Of course avg speed doesn't solve any major problem regarding safety (there are a lot of dangerous slow sections ad a lot of safe fast section in a rally) but having a limit is not that useless, I think it can help to prevent issues.

    Said that I still find ridiculous the situation: Rally Sweden organizers already had chosen that stage months ago, and FIA checked it out. What FIA expected after having seen itself that kind of route?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge33cymru View Post
    Even by the impressively high standards set by the FIA, this is some Grade A nonsense: http://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/f...speeds-874175/
    But we have to remember that this is Jarmo Mahonen speaking. Mahonen is not an average jerk, but much much worse. He's never done anything good when it comes to rallying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge33cymru View Post
    Even by the impressively high standards set by the FIA, this is some Grade A nonsense: http://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/f...speeds-874175/
    What an utter hypocrite..

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    Paddon on FIA: ''Speed is not a measure of how 'safe' a stage is - and SS12 in Sweden would have almost been same in '16. From a drivers perspective best is a mix of fast and slow stages - I wouldn't want to see iconic events slowed down. We want to go fast''

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    Rally Finland - Rally of the Thousand Hay Bales...

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