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    The front left of that C3 doesn't look very nice.

    The fall of Citroen is quite impressive tbh, from dominating for 10 years to not being able to compete with VW to now being clearly last in manufacturers even against newcomer Toyota who has basically 1 driver.

    At least the C3 doesn't seem far back in terms of speed, one then has to question their driver policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    The fall of Citroen is quite impressive tbh, from dominating for 10 years to not being able to compete with VW to now being clearly last in manufacturers even against newcomer Toyota who has basically 1 driver.

    At least the C3 doesn't seem far back in terms of speed, one then has to question their driver policy.
    Yeah that policy of having the best driver in the world in their car really did work I guess. Their new policy of not having that = less successful.

    In fairness they did basically give up on the WRC for a few years ('14/'15/'16).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmi View Post
    Yeah that policy of having the best driver in the world in their car really did work I guess. Their new policy of not having that = less successful.

    In fairness they did basically give up on the WRC for a few years ('14/'15/'16).
    Also '13, transition year towards the WTCC.

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    They truly deserve all that misery after they expelled Ogier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    Also '13, transition year towards the WTCC.
    Maybe. You don't think they thought they were going to win the title with Hirvonen going into that season?

    Still makes me laugh that VW's entire stated aim for 2013 was to 'fight for podiums'.
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    And then Citroen spend most of 2016 preparing for this year. Isn't working out very well.

    After VW quit they could push hard for Ogier, tbh it didn't seem they were that much interested. Certainly from Matton's comments, and they were not interested at all in the other two.

    Then again just two days ago I could read on this very thread how Meeke is the fastest driver in WRC, oh well.

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    To be fair... They haven't really had a great driver for a while. Loeb left and they only got Hirvonen who was on his way out both in form and in sprit.

    There were hopes that Meeke had stopped crashing but those have been thoroughly crushed.

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    i said i wasn't going to watch Kris for the remainder of the season. Such a bloody shame again- looks like they were both ok though. If he's out of contract at the end of this season, unfortunately I think it's 'party over'.
    Anyone predict any national UK hotshots coming behind these boys?

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    Agree, but it again goes down to november last year. Link to the comments at that time:
    http://www.autosport.com/news/report...818.1478205931


    Matton told Autosport: "I have the driver line-up for next year."

    "All I will say is that if Sebastien Ogier gives me a call I will answer and we will have a chat, but there's no question about changing my driver line-up for next season."

    "I would not say I would not take the call from Jari-Matti Latvala or Andreas Mikkelsen, of course I will - I am a polite guy!

    "But the story is different for them: they are not French and they don't have the world title."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Then again just two days ago I could read on this very thread how Meeke is the fastest driver in WRC, oh well.
    Fastest no, but one of the trio Ogier, him & Neuville. However his problem is not the speed, he has to manage it somehow though, even risking to be slightly slower, that would pay off much more than pure speed.
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