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    Quote Originally Posted by Watson View Post
    Could you please elaborate? What happened and who benefits/gets a disadvantage off that?
    It's already discussed in this thread, search and find.

    edit: Given there is not official statement from the team about this, I think there is nothing more to say about it.
    Last edited by stefanvv; 4th May 2017 at 21:39.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Charming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    I tend not to agree with You. There are clearly given time penalties for being late from service. The rules state in which state the car has to leave the service. Therefore by this action Hyundai most likely avoided time penalty for Neuville and therefore took a clear advantage in the fight for later victory (maybe not intentionally, who knows). The decision can be seen as a dangerous precedent. Will other teams also leave service with unfinished cars to save themselves from time penalties? I hope not.
    Mirek, I agree with you. Haven't there been severe penalties in the past for minor 'indiscretions' in respect of car compliance ( i.e ... A rock in the spare wheel well, under weight/over thin windscreens) ?
    Never do anything you wouldn't want to explain to a paramedic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    yeah, Hyundai are far from fair play, aren't they (Given the Paddon delayed start on Saturday also).
    Quote Originally Posted by Watson View Post
    Could you please elaborate? What happened and who benefits/gets a disadvantage off that?
    Paddon was delayed trying to fix a broken ARB, stefanvv is delusional and thinks it was a conspiracy to change his road position by one place.

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    Even if they did it in purpose it would be legal (he was penalized for that) and definitely not the first time such thing happened.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    In the case with Neuville, but also in Sardinia last year, I'm wondering why the penalties for such things are not fixed. Shouldn't there be some published list of possible violations and penalties associated with it? The FIA doesn't seem to be always correct/consequent with penalties.

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    Another point is that a car without mirrors is not road-legal, i.e. it is similar violation as driving on three wheels on public roads. It may be harsh but IMO car which is not legal shall not be allowed to leave service park.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    Paddon was delayed trying to fix a broken ARB
    Ah ok then. No problem.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Quote Originally Posted by br21 View Post
    I don't like how more and more such cases is being solved by a fine. It looks like they simply collect money. In the past crews were disqualified for outdated gloves etc. while these two cases were for sure more serious incidents both in safety and sporting point of view.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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