Rally Wrc Mexico 2017

[Rally Power]

Sweet mother of Jesus, these ‘Citroen sucks’ fever it’s totally nuts! I really can’t get why so many rally fans are always eager to condemn some of the sport best teams and drivers. Didn’t the mega critic’s learn anything from the pre season demoralizing campaign on Toyota? Let Citroen guys do their job, eventually they’ll fix the issues and fight for victories, hopefully already in Mexico.

Btw, people also tend to forget that unlike the manu teams, MSport has to make as many cars as they can, once their main funding comes from private sells. Yep, they’ve done a fantastic job making the double of new cars than the others, but don’t they have extra manpower for it? Besides, if we see it properly, MSport WRC team it’s a 2 cars team like Toyota or Citroen; Evans is only there because a private partner, DMack, is paying for it.

[electroliquid]

Sweet mother of Jesus, these ‘Citroen sucks’ fever it’s totally nuts! I really can’t get why so many rally fans are always eager to condemn some of the sport best teams and drivers. Didn’t the mega critic’s learn anything from the pre season demoralizing campaign on Toyota? Let Citroen guys do their job, eventually they’ll fix the issues and fight for victories, hopefully already in Mexico.

Btw, people also tend to forget that unlike the manu teams, MSport has to make as many cars as they can, once their main funding comes from private sells. Yep, they’ve done a fantastic job making the double of new cars than the others, but don’t they have extra manpower for it? Besides, if we see it properly, MSport WRC team it’s a 2 cars team like Toyota or Citroen; Evans is only there because a private partner, DMack, is paying for it.

Nobody say that "Citroen sucks", but they not compete full season last year due to preparations to this season. But they are not prepared, at least not good as others. So basically they lied us. If team say - we skip season but next year we'll be back strong as possible, so we expect to be it, if team feel, that they can't manage it - they should shut up, compete full 2016 season and hope for the best this year.
Of course we will see how rest of the season goes for Citroen, I hope it will be all rigth.

[mknight]

Nobody say that "Citroen sucks", but they not compete full season last year due to preparations to this season. But they are not prepared, at least not good as others.

Precisely. Remember that last time they did this in 2006/2007, the C4 was the fastest car at once.

It's now 32 stages into the new season. Citroen has won a single stage when Lefebre was the only one with different tires, so basically 0. Either
a) Citroen have done a bad job during all their preparations.
or
b) They weren't actually trying that much (in terms of money/people).

Starts to smell a lot like b) to me. Let's hope it won't be the same story as with Subaru in 08.

[steve.mandzij]

Precisely. Remember that last time they did this in 2006/2007, the C4 was the fastest car at once.

It's now 32 stages into the new season. Citroen has won a single stage when Lefebre was the only one with different tires, so basically 0. Either
a) Citroen have done a bad job during all their preparations.
or
b) They weren't actually trying that much (in terms of money/people).

Starts to smell a lot like b) to me. Let's hope it won't be the same story as with Subaru in 08.

What happened to Subaru in 08? I'd'nt followed the WRC between 2004-2010 pretty much.

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[jparker]

What happened to Subaru in 08? I'd'nt followed the WRC between 2004-2010 pretty much.

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Subaru stopped their WRC program, and cooperation with Prodrive ended.
It's funny because Citroen's domination was probably the main reason for thar.

[PLuto]

Subaru stopped their WRC program, and cooperation with Prodrive ended.
It's funny because Citroen's domination was probably the main reason for thar.

The main reason was that japan people from Subaru were not satisfied with Prodrive...

[jacko]

The main reason was that japan people from Subaru were not satisfied with Prodrive...

Nope, Subaru just leave the WRC like all the other manufacturers because they didn't gain that much anymore and there was really no big point to be there anymore. Also, maybe the main point, the financial crisis played a big role in here (Suzuki stopped also).
So winning or not, they had to go sometime and this was the moment. Subaru were involved in the WRC for more than 15 years, that's a really long time compare most of the other competitors.

[rallyfiend]

Nope, Subaru just leave the WRC like all the other manufacturers because they didn't gain that much anymore and there was really no big point to be there anymore. Also, maybe the main point, the financial crisis played a big role in here (Suzuki stopped also).
So winning or not, they had to go sometime and this was the moment. Subaru were involved in the WRC for more than 15 years, that's a really long time compare most of the other competitors.

That's what they said - a value proposition - but for those involved, it was well-known that the Subaru / Prodrive relationship had broken down so badly, and the cost was out of proportion to what even other teams / manufacturers were paying.

[jacko]

About Citroën, like all that bullshit-crap talk about Toyota/ Tommi Makinen (before the season), now the boys here have a new target to bash Citroën.
And for once i'm in. Not for the results so far, that's part of the game in rally but i think they had gone for three cars from MC in combination they had to pick-up a second-driver like the ones of a Ostberg, Lappi, Kubica or Evans and when Latvala and Mikkelsen (and Ogier) even became free, they had to pick-up for sure one of them.
With only Meeke now in the bag it's a big question what he can do in the top because from Levebre and Breen you can't expect normally a top three finish this season. So, that's a big missed chance and that's were it gone wrong i think for this season already.
And the decision to take Lefebvre instead of Breen (2x 5th place, best classified Citroën driver) for Mexico is really strange, really weird and that's simply wrong even Lefebvre did a okay job in Sweden.They had to choose Breen here and for Lefebvre there was again the old DS3 car (or R5 car).

And about my friend Adreas Mikkelsen: he has to be patient, he will be there again in a good car in 2018 (if not already sometimes this season in a privat-car or as a temporary replacement-driver), it will be in a Hyundai (for Sordo), Toyota (for Hanninen) or in a Citroën (as a second driver next to Meeke). @Ford i think they have with Ogier and Tanak two drivers (i guess they will continu with M-Sport in 2018) who can battle every round for the win.

[bluuford]

Mexicoooooooooooooo!!!!!!