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6th July 2017, 20:35 #181
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And the end result was this beast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm53Tm7OMyQ driven by no less than Hannu Mikkola on the Goodwood Festival just some days ago.
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6th July 2017, 20:48 #182
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The RS002 was actually never in Dešná (the testing area in Czechoslovakia) but they tested a mid-engined mule using body panels from normal gr.B S1.
It's this car on the right side of this photo from Dešná which was published more than twenty years later.
The history of RS002 is also interesting. Roland Gumpert, boss of Audi Motorsport was keeping the development of mid-engined car secret from Ferdinand Piech because Piech insisted on using stock configuration for marketing purposes. That's why S1 was overpowered but clumsy monster. When Piech learned about existence of RS002 he ordered all prototypes to be destroyed. Gumpert destroyed two cars but kept the third one hidden for two decades before bringing it on public. Now it's one of the most valuable prototypes...
Revman, sorry for hijacking Your threadLast edited by Mirek; 6th July 2017 at 20:50.
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7th July 2017, 20:04 #183
On the web page macebig posted few days ago is also the history of group S.
https://rallygroupbshrine.org/group-s/group-s-history/
Lower on the page is a “short lived rumour” of the group X.
Another story about group S
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/a...lying-group-s/
I knew I had something in my favourites about group S and I found this. I had not read it my selves so had to take some time to read it. It’s related to same story Mirek told about. Funny story (don’t tell the boss).
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threa...y-cars.181687/
In 1990 there was also rumours, or was what said of it, it was more than a rumour, of a new group called R or RR as it was called in another context. It was supposed to start at the beginning of 1994 but on the second half of the year the group R got resistance from manufactures, drivers and organizers whom opinion was that group A cars are enough rally cars and it was buried at the end of 1990.
In 1990 the group A cars had nice power figures so maybe the drivers was afraid the new group would give them some pussy machinery.“Don’t eat the yellow snow” Frank Zappa
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8th July 2017, 14:42 #184
A question about Poland.....As I understand it, Ogier called for his gravel crew to asses the conditions before the start of at least one of the days when others did not. Is this correct? Is this what makes him special? Why wouldn't others do the same?
Related question....Is the gravel crew the same as the weather crew? Kind of heard both terms thrown around.
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8th July 2017, 15:17 #185
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New to WRC--How should I watch and what should I watch for
Weather crew just walks on the stage and measures the temperature of the road and sees the weather condition for tyre selection and setup choices. Gravel crew drives through the stage before the competitors and reports changes in road condition for pace note additions. Allowed now only in tarmac events.
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8th July 2017, 15:30 #186
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Weather crew can be basically anyone who is on stage and is in contact with the team. Even I was few times while I was basically just a spectator.
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8th July 2017, 15:41 #187
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8th July 2017, 15:57 #188
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Because it's not very helpful. On gravel or snow You always have somewhat slippery conditions and those further change with more and more cars passing (grip usually first getting better but than ruts starting to appear etc.).
On tarmac it's very different. There is very high level of grip where there is clean asphalt but sudden changes with some dirt, water etc. make it tricky and sometimes dangerous. That's why rules allow gravel crews on asphalt events.Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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8th July 2017, 16:22 #189
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8th July 2017, 17:29 #190
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I forgot to mention where the gravel crew is the most important - Monte Carlo (it's also asphalt event per official classification). There they are used foremost to locate icy patches, especially black ice. Monte Carlo is the most tricky event in terms of conditions of all.
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I think we saw this one coming, didn't we?
F1 Guru Adrian Newey leave Redbull