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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmi View Post
    I'd argue that we got the normal conditions at this year's Monte? A bit of everything.
    ...and it is exactly because of the ability to handle these changing demands that the RMC winner usually ends up as WDC for that year.
    Kris Meeke got fired -PSG so terrified they quit!

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    Could it just be that Toyota is not that bad as some of us thought they would be and neither the new VW as someone other are saying now after two very special event?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    Well the cross section of 32 vs 33 is certainly affected (33² * pi /4 is a bit bigger than 32² * pi /4).
    I know but it doesn't seem to be that different to me, some 6 percent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemanband View Post
    Latvala is still a better driver than Mikkelsen, as he has already proved this year. Or you think Toyota would have a podium and a win without Latvala?
    He might be better, or might not, during the whole 2016 season in same car he certainly wasn't.

    However, how has he proved it this year already? Was Mikkelsen driving a WRC car on Monte and in Sweden?

    #logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    Could it just be that Toyota is not that bad as some of us thought they would be and neither the new VW as someone other are saying now after two very special event?
    It could be everything. No matter how obvious some things are, there is so much more hidden and unknown for most of us here.
    It is very basic approach to draw conclusions based on stats, incidents, conditions, driver mistakes, flukes, and so on.
    In terms of TGR, the only credible way for predicting the future, is the history of Toyota, and the success of the people involved in this project.
    Last edited by jparker; 13th February 2017 at 13:12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    Their results were a fluke, in Monte latvala would be 8th and below under normal conditions, and in sweden he would be 3rd and below because he knows sweden.
    what weird conditions where there in sweden then?
    he has beaten ogier and tanak solely on speed. i know that realizing that must be very painful to you, but covering your ears and yelling "i can't hear you" isn't going to change reality.

    and this was ogier's 8th rally sweden, compared to latvala's 11th. so i suspect they both know the roads by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    he has beaten ogier and tanak solely on speed.
    Tanak had gearbox problems early. And he was outclassed by neuville by almost a minute and neuville is nothing in sweden.

    too complicated for you ?

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    Citroen looks a lumpy car if you compare it to the others. Maybe the DS3 was the better base car to build a 2017 spec WRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvEvo View Post
    Citroen looks a lumpy car if you compare it to the others. Maybe the DS3 was the better base car to build a 2017 spec WRC
    The DS3 is essentially a C3

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