Rally Sweden 2017

[Francis44]

Ostberg with the biggest jump on Colin's Crest? Funny because there was a bet for the highest jump on his onebet site.

I dont know if the FIA are monitoring this new trend on bets because this sport is easily influenced.

[WRC17]

top speeds are slower than they where with the 2.0 wrc cars, so that's no excuse either.

Yes, but that was the 2011 - 2016 cars, not 2017 cars.

[mousti]

currently toyota having a previous sweden winner at the wheel are losing to neuville who was a nobody in sweden and they will be probably be eclipsed by a non winner in car that ogier struggles with... how does that make them a good car special boy

You forgot that Neuville already was very close to a victory in Sweden..


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[N.O.T]

You forgot that Neuville already was very close to a victory in Sweden..


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yes after latvala retiring ogier hitting problems and mikkelsen on team orders to finish... he won 3 special stages in 2015, and now dominating.

[smsgrafica]

C'mon, let's just be honest: Latvala nearly sweeped the road yesterday and still is 2nd overall. Today he nearly has the same conditions as Ogier, but the champ isn't able to claim back much time. So Toyota can't be so bad, can it? Or is Ogier suddenly becoming slow?

[onemanband]

currently toyota having a previous sweden winner at the wheel are losing to neuville who was a nobody in sweden and they will be probably be eclipsed by a non winner in car that ogier struggles with... how does that make them a good car special boy ?

If toyota was equal or close to the competition Latvala would have a quite comfortable lead... and what about hanninen ?

basic simpletons unable for complicated thoughts.

Neuville is also the only top 4 runner who had a road order advantage on day 1.

[KKS]

currently toyota having a previous sweden winner at the wheel are losing to neuville

And where is 2013, 2015, 2016 Sweden winner now?

[N.O.T]

when you talk about car performace winning means nothing, you can win a rally without the fastest car.

Latvala is the fastest driver in sweden and with the toyota he will have to fight not to finish 4th, in monte he was nowhere, and what about hanninen ? he is nowhere so far on every rally.

Toyota is the worst car of the new breed of cars, of course they do better than those testing videos suggested but given the fact they are a factory team, they do absolutely nothing and that is solely on the fact that toyota gave the project to a worthless unprofessional nationalistic team of village finnish kids who have no sense how proper teams work.

but as i said previously the season to judge drivers and equipment starts partially in mexico.

Now if you want to overglorify drivers and teams (evans in monte toyota here) like some kid, be my guest but accept the flak.

[onemanband]

Toyota is the worst car of the new breed of cars, of course they do better than those testing videos suggested but given the fact they are a factory team, they do absolutely nothing and that is solely on the fact that toyota gave the project to a worthless unprofessional nationalistic team of village finnish kids who have no sense how proper teams work.

While I agree with you that the Toyota is behind the others, the results show they are not that far behind. And while I was also very pessimistic about TMR, looking at when they were given the project by Toyota and what they did have at the start then I can say that I am very impressed. If they would be "a worthless unprofessional nationalistic team of village finnish kids who have no sense how proper teams work" they would be NOWHERE NEAR the pace they are.

[stefanvv]

While I agree with you that the Toyota is behind the others, the results show they are not that far behind. And while I was also very pessimistic about TMR, looking at when they were given the project by Toyota and what they did have at the start then I can say that I am very impressed. If they would be "a worthless unprofessional nationalistic team of village finnish kids who have no sense how proper teams work" they would be NOWHERE NEAR the pace they are.

They also deserve respect in the time schedule they had to establish everything from scratch, under a year if I'm not mistaken.