Deutschland rally 2016

[stefanvv]

Times changed. That days when gr.B cars had 450 Hp, the common cars used to have 60-80 Hp. Today everybody can buy a car with hundreds of Hp for relatively small money (at least used ones) and nobody is going to be astonished by 400 Hp figure anymore. It was something completely crazy in 1985.

It's not about the numbers, they aren't something special. But the jump from current power can be a factor in getting used to.

[Mirek]

Is 20% more power so radical change? I don't think so. The cars will be faster mainly in cornering speed thanks to the active center diffs and the aero package but not that much on straights (where some of the power will be spent on the extended aerodynamic drag).

[stefanvv]

I don't think it is either, but some drivers can find it difficult to adjust. Just an assumption.
Anyway dangerous crashes can happen with any rally car, no matter ho many hp it has. It is about the safety measures regulations are taken, not the speed/hp.

[N.O.T]

20% as a number is not that radical, but if you take into account that the cars are already very very fast 20% increase is a HUGE number.

For me the more the better, there is no such thing as too much power in motorsports.

[Mirek]

I believe the last 2.0T WRC cars had around 370-380 Hp and 800-900 Nm and nobody seemed to think it was too much when there was 300 Hp written everywhere...

[Fabian Gaukler]

WRC Germany 2016 Shakedown and Day 1 action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwDlQdOpiJs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiL5ty0zoyo

[jacko]

Hilkensteins are unnecessary danger.

Never expected but i follow N.O.T. here.
The solution i think is to use car-tires (or something like that) around the Hilkensteins on places were it could be really dangerous like the (fast) place of the crash of Lefebvre. So in this corner you only put them on/at the last four or five ones. You can't make rally a safe heaven but you have to look what it's possible to make it safe were it can, unnatural roadchicanes is also a possibility.

[marcosg]

maybe we should organize events on a dragster straight with 2k with plenty of barriers... this should be safe enough...

[N.O.T]

maybe we should organize events on a dragster straight with 2k with plenty of barriers... this should be safe enough...

its not about safety its about unnecessary danger, for example lets say you have a lake on the outside of a corner, that would be fine for rallying since its an acceptable anger, but if that lake was the home of piranhas then that would be an unnecessary danger. Remove the piranhas and keep the lake.

[Franky]

its not about safety its about unnecessary danger, for example lets say you have a lake on the outside of a corner, that would be fine for rallying since its an acceptable anger, but if that lake was the home of piranhas then that would be an unnecessary danger. Remove the piranhas and keep the lake.

First year you remove the fish, the second year the lake, the third year every solid item close to the road, fourth year you are driving in a parking lot.