View Poll Results: Who's the donkey?

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  • Lewis Hamilton

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  • Nico Rosberg

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    The biggest fail in that is not someone but something, and that's the ridiculous engine formula. Back in the day when I learned to drive you had three pedals. One was for changing gears, one was for slwong down, informally called the girl's pedal and the third one was easy to work out. You press it and it gets loud and kills Johnny Polar Bear, you step off it and it gets slow and therefore unacceptable.

    These days your engine decides that you could do with 160 bhp less because you were in the wrong strat-doo-dah and generally pushed one of the two-hundred thousand buttons a little out of sequence. Sod that...
    как могу я знать что я думаю, пока не слушал что я говорю

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mifune View Post
    Something wrong with my browser, I'm missing the 2nd page of this...
    Yes you are right there should be some consideration given to Hamilton's attempted pass. There is no doubt that it was abit desperate. With such a gap as was apparent from the camera on Hamilton's car, if he hadn't attempted the move, most of us would have read more to it. Most people would have referred to that moment as a clear indication that Hamilton had lost his edge.

    The most important thing was that the accident was avoidable by both drivers. The question is who is most culpable of the two. This is what the stewarts thought of the incident, their verdict as released to the press:-

    'The incident concerned started when Car 6 [Rosberg] dropped into an incorrect power mode, as set by the driver prior to the start. This created a significant power differential between Car 6 and Car 44 [Hamilton] at the exit of Turn 3 coming onto the straight, resulting in as much as a 17kph speed difference between the two cars on the straight. Car 6 moved to the right to defend his position, as is his right under Art 27.7 of the Sporting regulations.

    'Simultaneously Car 44 as the significantly faster car with, at that time, apparent space on the inside, moved to make the pass. Art 27.7 requires the leading driver to leave room, if there is a "significant portion" of the car attempting to pass alongside.

    'Car 44 had a portion of his front wing inside Car 6 small fractions of a second prior to Car 44 having to leave the right side of the track to avoid an initial collision, which may have led him to believe he had the right to space on the right. Once on the grass on the side of the track Car 44 was no longer in control of the situation.

    'Having heard extensively from both drivers and from the team, the Stewards determined that Car 6 had the right to make the maneuver that he did and that Car 44's attempt to overtake was reasonable, and that the convergence of events led neither driver to be wholly or predominantly at fault, and therefore take no further action.'
    While they accepted Rosberg had a right to block and Hamilton had a right to attempt an overtake, they also clearly stated that according to the rule book, Rosberg was required to leave a car's width since Hamilton's front wing had, it their opinion, been along side Rosberg's car before Hamilton took avoiding action that put him on the grass.

    Hence it is fair to say that Rosberg got away with not being slapped with a penalty. In the fierceness of the moment, the fight, both drivers were intensely commited to their emotionally charged actions. To block at all cost, to pass at all cost.

    Which ever way you look at it, this battle is not over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    Yes you are right there should be some consideration given to Hamilton's attempted pass. There is no doubt that it was abit desperate. With such a gap as was apparent from the camera on Hamilton's car, if he hadn't attempted the move, most of us would have read more to it. Most people would have referred to that moment as a clear indication that Hamilton had lost his edge.

    The most important thing was that the accident was avoidable by both drivers. The question is who is most culpable of the two. This is what the stewarts thought of the incident, their verdict as released to the press:-



    While they accepted Rosberg had a right to block and Hamilton had a right to attempt an overtake, they also clearly stated that according to the rule book, Rosberg was required to leave a car's width since Hamilton's front wing had, it their opinion, been along side Rosberg's car before Hamilton took avoiding action that put him on the grass.

    Hence it is fair to say that Rosberg got away with not being slapped with a penalty. In the fierceness of the moment, the fight, both drivers were intensely commited to their emotionally charged actions. To block at all cost, to pass at all cost.

    Which ever way you look at it, this battle is not over.
    No it is not, sorry

    The stewards said, when Hamilton got alongside, Nico didn't c hange direction, meaning the door was close before he got to it. That's not the same that you say.
    как могу я знать что я думаю, пока не слушал что я говорю

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koz View Post
    So who do you guys think is at fault on this one, Lewis or Nico?
    It's all YOUR fault!
    " Lady - I'm in an awful dilemma.
    Moe - Yeah, I never cared much for these foreign cars either."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster View Post
    The biggest fail in that is not someone but something, and that's the ridiculous engine formula. Back in the day when I learned to drive you had three pedals. One was for changing gears, one was for slwong down, informally called the girl's pedal and the third one was easy to work out. You press it and it gets loud and kills Johnny Polar Bear, you step off it and it gets slow and therefore unacceptable.

    These days your engine decides that you could do with 160 bhp less because you were in the wrong strat-doo-dah and generally pushed one of the two-hundred thousand buttons a little out of sequence. Sod that...
    The only intelligent response so far.
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    Is there any talk that Rosberg and Hamilton got into an argument over this? Just curious because I am sure both of them were PO'ed after ending up in the gravel.
    " Lady - I'm in an awful dilemma.
    Moe - Yeah, I never cared much for these foreign cars either."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster View Post
    No it is not, sorry

    The stewards said, when Hamilton got alongside, Nico didn't c hange direction, meaning the door was close before he got to it. That's not the same that you say.
    We agree to disagree. We can all see different things in the shape of the clouds in the sky.

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    All I can say was It was a DJ_byte DISASTER ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster View Post
    No it is not, sorry

    The stewards said, when Hamilton got alongside, Nico didn't c hange direction, meaning the door was close before he got to it. That's not the same that you say.
    It's easy to say when you're not the one doing 145mph, and they are both human at the end of the day.

    At Monaco I hope the only door Nico closes is at the hotel.
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