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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Knight View Post
    So should Lewis win in Abu Dhabi and Rosberg come second, it will be the first time a driver has won 10 races and not won the championship.

    Looking at this fact and the reliability issues he has had, had the reliability been the same for both drivers, then we could have actually seen Lewis with one of the most dominant seasons in history only denied by reliability.
    Never mind the fact that this is the season with the most races in F1 history - 21 Grands Prix. It would actually be surprising if the second placed driver in the championship hadn't won a significant number of races himself.

    Besides, it's also quite convenient to overlook the fact that Rosberg's approach for the last few races has been rather conservative as he didn't really need to win them, so that's less competition for Hamilton. The whole "reliability took away Lewis' championship" argument is flawed - we don't know what would have happened and how both of them would have raced if, for instance, Hamilton's engine hadn't failed in Malaysia.

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    It doesn't make any difference how many races there are or who won how many of them. The rules at the beginning of the season were that the driver with the most points at the end of the last race wins the championship. That's how the season started and that's how it will end. Though i will admit that sometimes it's fun to play the "what if" game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyL View Post
    Let's not forget that Rosberg has won 9 races. It wouldn't be the first time that a driver has won the championship without winning the most races. Indeed, Lewis himself has done that.
    Also quite true. But it is the circumstances around the entire season that is in question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N4D13 View Post
    The whole "reliability took away Lewis' championship" argument is flawed - we don't know what would have happened and how both of them would have raced if, for instance, Hamilton's engine hadn't failed in Malaysia.
    If you take Malaysia alone into consideration, without the engine failure, Hamilton would have been 2 points ahead at the end of the Brazilian GP. We would be going into Abu Dhabi with the question whether Rosberg can somehow snatch it from Hamilton.

    By the way, the reliability issues were highly significant to the way things are stacked up going into Abu Dhabi. Without those reliability issues, Rosberg would not be in contention at all. It would have been a repeat of 2015.

    But that was that, we look to now and what might transpire in Abu Dhabi. Rosberg is not only in contention, he is firmly in the lead. His only task is to keep it together and try to finish on the podium at Abu Dhabi. If he does that, he would be the driver's Champion of 2016.

    Nobody remembers the woes of Rubens Barrichello when he lost what seemed like Ruben's first drivers title at one point in the Brawn in 2009. Ruben had all kinds of reliability issues. His car almost fell apart as one of the springs in his car dislodged, struck Massa in the head and almost wrecked Massa's career.

    It is who comes out of the last grand prix of the season ahead that history remembers.
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    In a recent interview , Button suggested he might be open to bribes for taking out Rosberg , as Hamilton is a rich man , but mentioned it might have to be as he is being lapped , as they aren't in the same league in speed .
    Just a joke , but the race will be somewhat like that , with both Mercs on edge , not able to finish first without first finishing .

    Without a weather misread by the Bulls , Nico wouldn't have had second last race , and would have been back farther in the spray , and we know that car doesn't follow others easily .
    He was lucky .

    It aint over yet .

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    Hamilton - Is revival possible or Is a new Champion in the making

    Lots of wheel banging in the last race please Mercs!! Let's have some excitement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by N4D13 View Post
    Never mind the fact that this is the season with the most races in F1 history - 21 Grands Prix. It would actually be surprising if the second placed driver in the championship hadn't won a significant number of races himself.

    Besides, it's also quite convenient to overlook the fact that Rosberg's approach for the last few races has been rather conservative as he didn't really need to win them, so that's less competition for Hamilton. The whole "reliability took away Lewis' championship" argument is flawed - we don't know what would have happened and how both of them would have raced if, for instance, Hamilton's engine hadn't failed in Malaysia.
    Has Rosberg mentioned anywhere that he has just been conservative for the last couple of races? He has actually publicly said quite the opposite so it sounds like this is something you just conjured up in your head.

    The reliability argument isn't flawed. Even with reliability impacting many of his races this year, Lewis is still only 12 points behind. I think we can all agree that he has lost at least 30-40 points reliability wise this year so he should be champion now. Rosberg lost a whopping 3 points and gained many points from Hamilton's misfortune so the championship would be over now with Hamilton having another WDC. That's not to take anything away from Nico, he has been excellent this year but lets call it as it is and, for once, stop with this whole "You make your own luck" nonsense and things like that. Rosberg has just been that - lucky. Lucky in a way that was out of his control. He has pretty much had zero reliability issues which directly impacted the race barring Silverstone.

    Sometimes luck just plays its hand. I think Rosberg will be champion and, in my opinion, he deserves a championship but he's also going to be a lucky one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Knight View Post
    Has Rosberg mentioned anywhere that he has just been conservative for the last couple of races? He has actually publicly said quite the opposite so it sounds like this is something you just conjured up in your head.
    To me it sounds so logical as to be almost inevitable, regardless of what Rosberg publicly claims. How many sportspeople would actually admit something like that to their opponents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyL View Post
    To me it sounds so logical as to be almost inevitable, regardless of what Rosberg publicly claims. How many sportspeople would actually admit something like that to their opponents?
    It's all speculation in the end and I don't think many drivers ever take their foot off the gas. Driving in a way that is not normal only leave s a driver open to uncharacteristic errors. It's nothing other than speculation and, given the qualifying we saw in Brazil, with both drivers balls to the wall on their laps, there is certainly no evidence to support it. Rosberg certainly didn't look like he was peddling anywhere. This sort of foundless speculation is what shite reporters thrive on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan View Post
    In a recent interview , Button suggested he might be open to bribes for taking out Rosberg , as Hamilton is a rich man

    Like Button is so poor that he has to eat cup noodles every day for lunch and dinner.

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