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Thread: Rally Italia Sardegna '16
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12th June 2016, 23:02 #611
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From what I have read of Loeb he grew up driving on muddy, and snowy roads--with crap tires...Here in North America--although on a vastly different scale some of the guys up in Quebec in Canada are shockingly (relatively) fast on snow and especially ice (no studs then)...that's what they drive on 6 months of the year. and of course they are all absolute lunatics whenever they drive anywhere.
And true confessions when I was building that nice Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4 that sits over <-------there next to my beloved old Saab I often wondered how results would go...what i wondered was "was I at my limit? Would I have higher Overall results? I had done some 3rd and 4th and 5th Overall with an ancient --but light and built bigger engineand freer spec than old WRC spec Saab----logically it sure seemed like I should go faster (and tests seemed to back that up) or was that speed what I could do?"
I only use Escort because as Paddon showed so well it is a simple car that has no real vices and is capable of an outright win even against a whole field of turbo 4wd cars.. It is FAST....if driven right.
Still.John Vanlandingham
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12th June 2016, 23:08 #612
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Dear Danon, You don't need to show me that again. I can read and I am sure You can do that too. So please read the whole text again. The penalty is not for the weight but for the shape. The weight difference is there written most likely only to show that it was irrelevant.
Had the document something to do with wrong weight, it must have contained exact values and their respective tolerances to be valid.
Tell me how much I have to slow down to loose 10 seconds on 600 km? I know how to loose 10 seconds on 6 km but I'm quite sure that nobody ever walking on this planet could know how much to slow down to loose 10 seconds on 600 km.
Just count those s/km for 6, 60 and 600 km and compare the result. I hope You then understand.Last edited by Mirek; 12th June 2016 at 23:15.
Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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12th June 2016, 23:13 #613
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One of their cigars weigh more... http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/foru...cigar-weights/
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If You want to be that precise then a spin on a corner will do the job. But I guess it doesn't matter if it is 10, 20 or 30 seconds for 600 kms regulating the pace.
On the contrary how do You know how You'll loose 10 seconds for 6km by pure pace, of course the chance is higher than for 600kms but it'll never happen because You're not super-human. It'll always be +- some seconds."With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI
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12th June 2016, 23:25 #615
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12th June 2016, 23:35 #616
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Stefan, please... think about it again. That's complete nonsense what You say. Yes, You can do a spin and loose 10 seconds but the key is from which value do You need to loose it - that's not Your time but time of Your opponent.
Please read that text again because You are wrong.Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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12th June 2016, 23:53 #617
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13th June 2016, 00:02 #618
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Ok, I'm not talking about opponent's time, just one's own one. For sure there is more precise info with split times and engineers with computers will tell You on the radio to stop for N secs before the stage end.
But if You know before the stage You have to lose min 20 secs for a 30 km stage, probably You'll know what pace will be enough to lose them. Mikkelsen had to lose today by few seconds, but lost 18+ for 6km. Isn't that odd for such a short stage, yet these were enough for his purpose."With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI
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13th June 2016, 00:22 #619
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Are we debating which is the best way to deliberately loose time on a stage now?
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13th June 2016, 00:25 #620
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Of course. And as far as I see, Mirek is trying to show that it is not so easy to predict how much time you need to loose not to be first on the road next day, if there are no splits. Especially on longer stages, where you cannot predict, how fast are your rivals (because they can use tactics also)...
Wet conditions. Portuguese Autosport brought something to the table... the WRC2 crews are using a WRC spec tyre that is harder than the spec Meeke and other CPR runners are using.
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