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4th October 2016, 00:47 #141
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The only other car I can find that ran under the 750 cc supercharged limit in F1 was a Giaur (Giannini-Urania) that competed in the 1954 Rome GP non-Championship Formula One race. Driven by Berardo Taraschi, it (#34) was listed in 11th place after dropping out on the 5th lap. It "finished" ahead of 4 cars; three that dropped out earlier and one that was a DNS. On paper, it seems to have much more potential than the (Deutsch-Bonnet) DB Panhard. There were one or two other 750 cc supercharged F1 cars built (Gleed-MG for instance) but I can't find that they ever ran in a Formula 1 race.
This is not the exact car (I don't believe) but I think this car and engine are basically it sans supercharger:
GiaurBase4F1.jpgLast edited by Stan Reid; 6th November 2016 at 00:33.
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4th October 2016, 01:19 #142
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This might be the Giaur F1-right number (34) at least:
giaurF1perhaps.jpgLast edited by Stan Reid; 5th October 2016 at 21:33.
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4th October 2016, 02:04 #143
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Re 1950 winning kurtis Kraft Offy:
OK I see the car listed as a 270 cu in about 4.4l just under the limit for 50-51. After the return to F1 in 1954, the limit was 2.5l.
There were very few other specifications in the original F1 formula, I gather. D-Type mentioned here previously that the Cooper-Jap Harry Schell raced for part of a lap at Monaco actually would qualify as a F1 car under these regulations. A bit more simpler then!
Thanks for the information.Last edited by D28; 4th October 2016 at 02:06.
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5th October 2016, 03:14 #144
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Here's the Giaur 750 cc F1 type engine with front mounted Roots-style supercharger.
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2nd November 2016, 13:23 #145
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The first driver to complete the Indianapolis 500 without a pit stop: Dave Evans who came in 13th in 1931. Also in the car was riding mechanic Thane Houser.
The last driver to complete the Indianapolis 500 without a pit stop: Johnny Mantz who came in 7th in 1949. Jimmie Jackson also completed the race that year without a pit stop and finished one position ahead of Mantz.
Note: The only other driver to complete the Indianapolis 500 without a pit stop was Cliff Bergere who came in 5th in 1941.This is my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking
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3rd November 2016, 12:29 #146
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Dave Evans drove the first diesel to run at Indianapolis.
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3rd November 2016, 20:13 #147
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5th November 2016, 01:01 #148
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Fred Agabashian drove the last diesel at Indy and in a WC event-the Cummins Diesel Special in 1952-it was also the first turbocharged racing car to compete anywhere. Here he is smoking the tires almost all the way round to win pole position for the 52 race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYOnyLKE3WU
{corrections welcome}Last edited by Stan Reid; 29th January 2017 at 22:48.
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5th November 2016, 23:21 #149
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The largest capacity entrant in any WDC race. And, I think, the heaviest. Because of its weight and consequent heavy tyre consumption it was unable to do many laps at its qualifying pace.
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6th November 2016, 00:13 #150
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The last time front engined cars ran in a scheduled 500 mile Indy car race-Pocono 1981
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That's George Snider in the foreground and Duke Cook in the dirt track car.
{corrections welcome}Last edited by Stan Reid; 6th November 2016 at 00:50.
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Meeke had a big gap to Rossel after stage 3 (20 sec) at stage 4 had a puncture and now the gap to Rossel is just 2 sec Gryazin strangely slow,anybody now why?...
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