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Thread: Neuville vs Mouton
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17th September 2015, 18:19 #11
Regardless of all that can be said about the before and after stages all participants are executed with the same conditions, if it is night, all night run, if there is fog, dust, moisture.
Sure, you may have some rain and some just wet, but it's ralling.Jesus Christ, Kris!!! (Not again)
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17th September 2015, 18:31 #12
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17th September 2015, 18:42 #13
The point is that nothing like it, if the dust, if I get out first, if that record the time at the end of the stage is not handsome and so on.
The only way would be the same conditions from the comfort of a simulator, and could even be in the air and calling for an occasional drink for better hangJesus Christ, Kris!!! (Not again)
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17th September 2015, 19:36 #14
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A lot of people have been comparing dust to fog, driving snow, heavy rain etc.
The difference for me is that the dust can be accurately predicted. The others are random, natural factors and are not caused by the cars themselves.
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18th September 2015, 03:50 #15
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18th September 2015, 07:37 #16
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18th September 2015, 08:10 #17
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I side with Mouton. However, regardless of who's "right" and who's wrong, it's quite disrespectful of Neuville to make such comments.
"When she was driving, it was with half-speed, old tyres without grip..." Very condescending if you ask me, bordering on arrogant. Quite "displeased Ogier"-like comments, to be honest.
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18th September 2015, 08:49 #18
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Or the whiners (jag tänke säga gnäll-pellisar o tänke va fan är pluralis av en gnäll-pelle? Hjälp!)
It IS precisely the lack of BIG ADVENTURE!and the lack of unpredictability, coupled with pampered nature of EVERYBODY at the highest level which has made rally "a mere contest of speed".
John Vanlandingham
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Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
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18th September 2015, 09:17 #19
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Great summary Lundefaret and I agree Rallyace, irrespective of who is right or wrong Neuvilles comments are terrible. And besides, when was the last time Neuville fought for 10ths of seconds?
I liked Paddons comments about it in the Rallysport mag "The end of leg night stage was a nice challenge, and while there was some hanging dust, I enjoyed it."
Dust is dust, it doesn't matter if you car was from the 70's, 80's or 2015. The drivers from all eras needed to drive as fast as they can in the conditions with the technology they have.
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18th September 2015, 09:28 #20
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In fact the drivers of old had to deal with spectators in the road in a way the current group don't. By no stretch am I saying they should be it must have been very difficult.
http://motormavens.com/2012/06/rally...k-their-lives/
The more I have thought about this the more annoyed I am at these modern drivers.
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Here you go.
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