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    Senior Member Rally Power's Avatar
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    For sure they aren't stupid, but it can't be seen as stupid to use motorsport and Pirelli know-how to promote a new (chinese) make.
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    Well, that's exactly the DMack story Afaik Dick Cormack and his "gang" are former Pirelli managers who started new Chinese brand and promoted it through the WRC campaign using their Pirelli know-how.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Not quite the same, as DMack is a niche tyre company focused in motorsport and the Pirelli chinese owners will probably fight for the global market, using Pirelli motorsport and premium ranges as a lever.
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    I thought the main market of DMack was utility and heavy duty tyres on Chinese market and that the motorsport is just a marketing tool for them.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    I thought the main market of DMack was utility and heavy duty tyres on Chinese market and that the motorsport is just a marketing tool for them.
    You're right, even if their road and industrial tyre share will always be residual. But in motorsport they're doing a great job, with an amazing growing pace. Good for them and rally costumers worldwide!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSS View Post
    That's exactly were Pirelli proved they're behind. Their tyre is fast I admit but only on a limited distance. This was clear on every rally, beginning of loops Kubica was fast but towards the end he lost time almost always. Or had punctures or had massive tyre wear. Same thing with all wrc cars on Pirellis. This was openly admitted from as well Kubica as Prokop. Also Nasser confirmed he made a mistake when changing to pirellis for one rally based on a short test. In Poland Michelin brought a specific tyre for wrc2 and were again setting the pace. So still some catching up to do in my opinion but it's good that there's competition even there!
    you cant compare pirellis with Kubica-Prokop and fiestas,against Ogier with polo and michelins and have a safe conclusion.
    somebody else can say that Kubica with private fiesta was plenty of times faster than works fiestas with michelins.
    Pirelli at some terrains/surfaces are better.And these are measured with same car/driver.These tests were at asphalt and gravel.Its not something new,its something that happens for years.Some years depenting from tyre evolutions,michelins were overall better,some years were pirelli overall better.
    Except these tests there are also real world examples from gravel and asphalt worldwide.

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    How come RK can´t listen to teamboss? He must have done it in F1, right? So adapting and being tactic is next step for him.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    He must have listened but being a perfectionist he can be difficult to work with
    Like Willy Rampf told in latest interview about Robert - he needs to have precisely defined task.

    I think in 2016 he will work in close cooperation with M-Sport
    Last edited by paba; 22nd November 2015 at 00:29.

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    Tomorrow there will be an article with Wilson in one of the leading Estonian newspaper but there's something revealed already today and he says that Tänak and Evans definitely won't share a car. He says that he hasn't said anything like that at all and it's made up. He also says that he can't comment the Bertelli thing. Tomorrow I will see the full article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Tomorrow there will be an article with Wilson in one of the leading Estonian newspaper but there's something revealed already today and he says that Tänak and Evans definitely won't share a car. He says that he hasn't said anything like that at all and it's made up. He also says that he can't comment the Bertelli thing. Tomorrow I will see the full article.
    Thank god they won't share the car. It's useless both for them and M-Sport. After two years each it's time to take a decision. Or you take all the two, or just one or try again with some other young gun hoping for a better outcome in the future.

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