There's not enough interest at the moment for that many members (here) to mount a fierce debate. Which indicates a problem. Some of it, of course, related to the state of IRL. Past, and apparently present.

I am/was pro-CART, but at this point I would like to just see OWR back to a level of appreciation it once was. However, with the drastic influence of technology (aero), operation costs, more direction towards city-venues, management issues, along w/other items noted on here, I don't see anything favorable in the near future.

I suppose it's just a matter of waiting to see if OWR can sail through rough waters.

From what I've seen on some other forums, NASCAR folks are complaining about their product as well. With that in mind, at least the IRL forum here has more life on it than the MSF's NASCAR forum.