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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    its funny how you want to make an excuse for Ogier always.
    Well, I'll just say that I'm considering a victory in Sweden for non-Nordic driver an achievement. That was my point - Ogier worked hard for it, not underestimating Mikkelsen's one, not at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    Well, I'll just say that I'm considering a victory in Sweden for non-Nordic driver an achievement. That was my point - Ogier worked hard for it, not underestimating Mikkelsen's one, not at all.
    This is not the point. The point are the reactions.
    Ogier celebrated soon (rightfully).
    Mikkelsen said "this is not the way I wanted to win but..." and then celebrated (rightfully and showing more style than his teammate, although it was his maiden and for-years-searched WRC win).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    its funny how you want to make an excuse for Ogier always.
    That's quite a statement from the man who cannot bear to see a negative word on these forums about his leotarded hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    This is not the point. The point are the reactions.
    Ogier celebrated soon (rightfully).
    Mikkelsen said "this is not the way I wanted to win but..." and then celebrated (rightfully and showing more style than his teammate, although it was his maiden and for-years-searched WRC win).
    Yes I know, Mikkelsen wanted to make his win by beating the best there, and we know who that was. I don't remember the exact history of Sweden this year, but didn't Ogier had some problem there early in the stages (mistake probably)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAS007 View Post
    That's quite a statement from the man who cannot bear to see a negative word on these forums about his leotarded hero.
    when these ''negative words'' are full of nonsence,yes cant bear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    Yes I know, Mikkelsen wanted to make his win by beating the best there, and we know who that was. I don't remember the exact history of Sweden this year, but didn't Ogier had some problem there early in the stages (mistake probably)?
    So did Mikkelsen, so they were more or less equal on mistakes there.
    The exiting thing about Mikkelsen is that he's continuing to show progress, so hopefully he can reach Ogier's pace regularly within a year or two, although it might seem impossible that anyone ever will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    So did Mikkelsen, so they were more or less equal on mistakes there.
    The exiting thing about Mikkelsen is that he's continuing to show progress, so hopefully he can reach Ogier's pace regularly within a year or two, although it might seem impossible that anyone ever will.
    Frankly I was impressed by his speed on Spanish tarmac as well. Wish him good luck in his future campaigns. Supporting any driver with ambition and skills to achieve his highest goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    So did Mikkelsen, so they were more or less equal on mistakes there.
    The exiting thing about Mikkelsen is that he's continuing to show progress, so hopefully he can reach Ogier's pace regularly within a year or two, although it might seem impossible that anyone ever will.
    i don't understand why anybody would expect mikkelsen to make enough progress to beat ogier or even latvala.
    he's been driving rally's for 9 years now, its his 3th wrc season in a works team. if he cant match the pace of ogier now, he will most likely never be able too match it.

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