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    Refuelling


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    Quote Originally Posted by N4D13 View Post
    No, please.
    Completely agreed, I dont see how in-race refuelling does anything for the "spectacle" except making pit stops a lot more dangerous. It also removes the skill factor of a quick tyre change, even at reduced fuel loads required now a half-tank fill will still take 5 seconds or so, double what is required for a decent tyre change!

    What F1 really needs to do and the one thing that the teams consistently refuse to do - change the underfloor! The flat floor which has been a part of F1 in a couple of different forms since 1983 (1983-1994 was a completely flat floor, 1995-present a flat floor with a 50mm step for the sidepods) has increased the reliance on creating downforce from the wings and top surfaces of the car, these are much more easily disturbed by aerodynamic turbulence, resulting in processions at aero-dependant tracks and the need for artificial aids such as DRS to make passing possible. there is no need for 1000BHP engines and suchlike if the cars have a fully developed underfloor and much smaller wings as the reduction in drag would see much higher speeds without the expense involved in such gimmicks.

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    I think refuelling and the other 2017 proposed changes are a massive step in the right direction.

    The cars should be faster and louder, and drivers should be able to push at 100% for longer. Refuelling helps this as it keeps the car weight down through the race, therefore the cars go quicker and the tyres don't wear out as fast.

    I understand what you are saying that it takes away some of the skill of fast pitstops, but I'd rather see better action on track than in the pitlane. I want to see Hamilton, Vettel, et al pushing to the limit, not "managing" their race.

    The rule changes are good but they still need to go a bit further - DRS needs to be removed ASAP. It is artificial and has taken away the skill of overtaking.
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    Refueling is only for Indycar..xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bezza View Post
    I think refuelling and the other 2017 proposed changes are a massive step in the right direction.

    The cars should be faster and louder, and drivers should be able to push at 100% for longer. Refuelling helps this as it keeps the car weight down through the race, therefore the cars go quicker and the tyres don't wear out as fast.

    I understand what you are saying that it takes away some of the skill of fast pitstops, but I'd rather see better action on track than in the pitlane. I want to see Hamilton, Vettel, et al pushing to the limit, not "managing" their race.

    The rule changes are good but they still need to go a bit further - DRS needs to be removed ASAP. It is artificial and has taken away the skill of overtaking.
    Good points, but you haven't addressed philipbain's thoughts on overtaking. I suspect it would be even more difficult with your proposal and no DRS.
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    I loved refueling. When the FIA took it away in 2010? 2011? I was not happy; but since then I have no problem with it being gone.
    get rid of the stupid tire rule and let teams choose what they want to use!
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    The proposals are pretty positive. F1 should be about the fastest cars going as fast as possible.
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    Less aero, smaller wings etc. And then steel suspension parts that wont brake from smallest touch

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    Quote Originally Posted by N4D13 View Post
    Oh the irony of showing us a Benetton in a pitstop when talking about refuelling...

    It is Benetton who provides the proof of why refuelling can be dangerous:

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    Unless it's a mileage race, refuelling is pointless.

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