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14th January 2015, 02:08 #121
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Agree this could easily be its own thread. So this is my last comment about it in this thread. When someone is not interested in pulling enough of their own weight in life then I have no use for them. I really don't care if the cost to me is only two cents. Let them starve. To mix metaphors, they're dead wood in the gene pool. On the other hand, if someone is willing to make an effort then I'm inclined to assist them in that effort.
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14th January 2015, 03:35 #122
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I think what you had their was enforced replacement of religion and gods, with communism, which did not want to exist in a society where people took guidance from another higher power when the higher power was supposed to be the state. That is purely a power play in exactly the same form as the organised religions. Atheism, as I previously stated, shouldn't even need to exist as a concept, if not for the existence of man made religion. I guess I would identify more as a humanist atheist. I don't believe in any gods, and see no reason to require any religion or state to pledge myself to. I think we are informed enough with far enough developed morally structured society's to be able to take responsibility for ourselves and stop pretending there is something more than we are living right now and stop wasting, what in all likelihood is our one and only, life on gathering together praying (begging) to a being that is supposed to already know everything and clearly doesn't care.
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14th January 2015, 07:36 #123
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It sounded like a generalization, but it wasn't meant to be. It's clear that some integrated and some didn't.
Based on the above I can suggest the following. 1) One could integrate if s/he was willing to. 2) One could combine the loyalty to France and its ways (including stupid cartoons and Michel Houellebecq) with his/her ethnic and cultural background. 3) If one was unwilling to do so, s/he probably had no business living in France.Llibertat
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14th January 2015, 19:55 #124
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14th January 2015, 20:09 #125
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14th January 2015, 21:52 #126
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It wasn't offensive to anyone bar Nazis. The Jewish lobby in Hollywood didn't back the film purely out of political/business concerns in case Hitler defeated the UK/France in Europe and Hollywood would end up being locked out of the lucrative European market. They didn't take offense and your point is rather impotent.
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14th January 2015, 22:30 #127
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14th January 2015, 22:39 #129
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I don't think it's at all uncommon for many people to live in countries where they are not 100% (or even close usually) satisfied with the way things are in that country. If we take the attitude that those not happy should go elsewhere, where are they to go?
And personally I'm still shocked at the reaction of much of the world that claims to be so understanding and accepting of other cultures. I don't see the initial murders as a terrorist act, or even remotely one. They had very specific targets and IMO the people involved other than those at Charlie Hebdo were nothing other than what these maniacs considered acceptable collateral damage. And yet after a building burned, and now a murder spree took place, the magazine responds by printing more of an issue that will further infuriate those attacking them. Bravo.... a great way to roll the dice and pull even more nutters into the mix!
I'm all for freedom of speech and the press, personal expression, and human rights. But I also accept that with my freedom of speech comes a responsibility that what I say may have negative consequences.
Sorry, but I am NOT Charlie.
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