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    According to an article in Motorsport Monday, Al-Attiyah did a back-to-back test before Portugal with Michelin, Pirelli and DMack tyres. Apparently both the Pirellis and DMacks were 'significantly quicker' than the Michelin.

    Maybe Michelin have become a little complacent as all the works WRC teams use their tyres?

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    I guess WRC teams get different tyres from Michelin than WRC2 teams but maybe I'm wrong.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Last edited by dimviii; 27th May 2015 at 21:09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    According to an article in Motorsport Monday, Al-Attiyah did a back-to-back test before Portugal with Michelin, Pirelli and DMack tyres. Apparently both the Pirellis and DMacks were 'significantly quicker' than the Michelin.

    Maybe Michelin have become a little complacent as all the works WRC teams use their tyres?
    hard to believe that dmacks are better from michelins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    hard to believe that dmacks are better from michelins.
    The test stage was only 5km and DMack brought their soft compound so maybe they were faster but last less well.

    Regarding Mirek's query about Michelin bringing different tyres for WRC2 crews, apparently not - and lighter construction of Pirelli tyres suits the lower powered cars in WRC2 better.

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    From what I heard about Pirelli's softness their hard gravel compound is like in the middle between Michelin's softs and hards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariusz View Post
    From what I heard about Pirelli's softness their hard gravel compound is like in the middle between Michelin's softs and hards.
    Michelin is so hard that it only works nicely under a WRC car and it doesent get warm enough to work under WRC2 cars because they are less powerful. Pirelli is much softer and works better under a WRC2 car but its easier to get puncutures with pirelli. When the weather is really warm, pirelli wears off quite quickly. Both tires have pluses and minuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    No it doesn't work like that...

    the rules state the steps if you want assistance...

    the bulletin that kid published said that the co-driver called the medical officer and he decided that the boy was alright (and the result from the hospital proved the medical officer did a good call)

    if Bertelli wanted the stage stopped he had every right to do so by showing the SOS sign...

    This is the WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP, car manufacturers spend millions to be in it and every driver from the champion to the last nobosy HAS EXACTLY THE SAME RESPONSIBILITIES TOWARDS the organisers.... if Bertelli wants special treatment he can become a tailor in his mommys shop...
    Once again N.O.T, you demonstrate a complete lack of knowledge and understanding of the sport you so randomly choose to comment about.

    You have outlined the universal procedure for a competitor to seek assistance from those following on the stage. This procedure is there ostensibly for when an incident occurs in a remote area and the competitors understand their obligations.

    Not everything that occurs on an event, or that a competitor will do, or should do, is written in rules which you can access.

    In supporting documentation there will be locations of checkpoints, radio points, marshal points and those manned with medics. There will be emergency contact numbers in order that a competitor can talk directly with HQ should the need and opportunity arise. And it would be most unusual on any event, regardless of status, for the organization not to prefer direct communication as it is more accurate and more speedy. And this will no doubt have been conveyed to all competitors.

    This car came to grief in a spectator area where presumably there was a level of assistance. They weren't initially concerned about their wellbeing so they activated the 'OK' and joined the spectators. When it was apparent that the driver was possibly concussed, or worse, they activated the SOS and talked directly with the Chief Medical Officer.
    This was ABSOLUTELY the correct thing to do, and avoided the need for them to stop the rally unnecessarily. That call should have come from HQ.

    It doesn't matter the status of the event or how many millions are being spent. When a life is at stake swift action is called for.

    I thought you were a medical researcher of some description. One would have thought anyone so engaged would know that when head trauma is suspected one does not recommend an Aspirin and 'put the feet up'.
    Never do anything you wouldn't want to explain to a paramedic.

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    again useless blah blah...

    bertelli asked the advice of the medical officer... the medical officer told him he was fine and he was right...

    If bertelli wanted the stage stopped because he considered the advice wrong he could just use the SOS sign and stop the stage.

    The rulebook is there for a reason if you cannot follow it you are in the wrong sport and a danger to yourself and others.

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