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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    So 1 of 5 was car error, not so bad in my book!
    You may be right, but it depends on the ambitions that Peugeot has. If they have
    - former world champion (Breen)
    - multiple Polish/French rally champion (Bouffier)
    - multiple Portuguese rally champion (Magalhaes)
    - current ERC3 champion (Bergkvist)
    on the entry list, then they have to be disappointed after being defeated by a relatively unknown driver from Russia in a private Ford
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    What a waste! A perfect rally from Breen and the 208, but the team manage to screw it again...

    The Peugeot Academy program it's a fine contribution to the sport, but Matton, as the new overall PSA sport's boss, must get a proper partner at ERC.

    Last two year results are damaging Peugeot rally reputation. That's a shame, as the car can be really competitive.
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    Everybody talking about great performance of Berqvist, but I am also impressed by "young" Gryazin. He is 18 years and 3 weeks old. He went through this difficult rally with quite good speed.
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    Good point, the future's bright if these kids can find backing. I noticed SRT were branded as Skoda Baltic Motorsport, which I guess bodes well for the future of that team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Comment on each car above.

    So 1 of 5 was car error, not so bad in my book!
    No and that's the thing. Everyone seem to take the Sainteloc pugs as some kind of benchmark. To my knowledge Ucci has had almost no problems with his car at all the two years he's been running it in the Italian championship (and Sardegna).

    I don't have a complete picture of other privateers but I kinda wonder if it isn't Sainteloc that are utterly incompetent.

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    No, they are not the only ones with a lot of problems. Other suffered too. For example Koči with TRT 208 hasn't finished a single WRC2 event this year I think. Princen in Belgium retired or fought with many problems in nearly every rally as well. If You go through WRC2 results You can very rarely find a 208 which finished some event no matter how many of them started. It's more like Racing Lions are the exception from the rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    No, they are not the only ones with a lot of problems. Other suffered too. For example Koi with TRT 208 hasn't finished a single WRC2 event this year I think. Princen in Belgium retired or fought with many problems in nearly every rally as well. If You go through WRC2 results You can very rarely find a 208 which finished some event no matter how many of them started. It's more like Racing Lions are the exception from the rule.
    RallyPower listed a couple that was doing well in the R5 thread and it has finished quite a lot of events...

    Koci I have only followed only a little bit so I don't know much about him. The few events I have seen anything of him he crashed I think.

    I am not so sure it is as unreliable as it is made out to be. Karl Kruuda seemed to run reliably when he wasn't crashing. If there are reliable privately run cars, that must mean that the ones who aren't are not checked properly or something Like that (or run a tight budget to try to make a profit or something like that). I think it has more to do with how you handle it than anything else.

    But then again, I'm a fan boy so I am massively biased. You could be right and I'm lost in a haze of fanboyism.

    Funny enough I was never a fan of the S2000 207 (or the 207 at all for that matter) despite it being the best sounding rally car ever, hahahaha.

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    In Denmark there is a DS3 R5 and and 208 T16. Both have 100% finishing record. Both driven by gentleman drivers, so probably not too hard on them, but anyways, they are not unreliable.
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