A pointless title fight thread

[steveaki13]

Hi all.

This thread is pretty meaningless and pointless, but I was bored the other day and decided to compare how this Championship would look under the 3 major F1 scoring systems over the last 20 odd years.

i.e the real standings now with 25,18,15,12,10,8,6,4,2,1

2003-2009/2010 (i forget which season) - 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

Pre 2002 - 10,6,4,3,2,1



So here we are wins for 2014 have been spread as little between drivers as any season since I watched. Just 3 drivers winning so far.

Hamilton - 8 wins
Rosberg - 4 wins
Ricciardo - 3 wins

So this is the current standings

1	Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes	266
2	Nico Rosberg	Mercedes	256
3	Daniel Ricciardo	Red Bull	193
4	Sebastian Vettel	Red Bull	139
5	Fernando Alonso	Ferrari	133
6	Valterri Bottas	Williams	130
7	Jenson Button	Mclaren	82
8	Nico Hulkenberg	Force India	76
9	Felipe Massa	Williams	71
10	Sergio Perez	Force India	46
11	Kimi Raikkonen	Ferrari	45
12	Kevin Magnussen	Mclaren	39
13	Jean Eric Vergne	Toro Rosso	21
14	Romain Grosjean	Lotus	8
15	Danii Kyvat	Toro Rosso	8
16	Jules Bianchi	Marussia	2
17	Adrian Sutil	Sauber	0
18	Marcus Ericcson	Caterham	0
19	Pastor Maldonado	Lotus	0
20	Esteban Gutierrez	Sauber	0
21	Max Chilton	Marussia	0
22	Kamui Kobayashi	Caterham	0
23	Andre Lotterer	Caterham	0

1	Mercedes	522
2	Red Bull	332
3	Williams	201
4	Ferrari	178
5	Force India	122
6	Mclaren	121
7	Toro Rosso	29
8	Lotus	8
9	Marussia	2
10	Sauber	0
11	Caterham	0

Using the 2003-2009/10 points system

1	Nico Rosberg	Mercedes	109
2	Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes	108
3	Daniel Ricciardo	Red Bull	77
4	Sebastian Vettel	Red Bull	56
5	Fernando Alonso	Ferrari	53
6	Valterri Bottas	Williams	51
7	Jenson Button	Mclaren	31
8	Felipe Massa	Williams	27
9	Nico Hulkenberg	Force India	26
10	Kimi Raikkonen	Ferrari	14
11	Sergio Perez	Force India	14
12	Kevin Magnussen	Mclaren	12
13	Jean Eric Vergne	Toro Rosso	5
14	Romain Grosjean	Lotus	2

1	Mercedes	217
2	Red Bull	133
3	Williams	78
4	Ferrari	68
5	Mclaren	43
6	Force India	40
7	Toro Rosso	5
8	Lotus	2
9	Marussia	0
10	Sauber	0
11	Caterham	0

*Interesting that Nico Rosberg who has been more consistant this season would be leading the championship still in the old format

Now the classic system pre 2003

1	Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes	100
2	Nico Rosberg	Mercedes	91
3	Daniel Ricciardo	Red Bull	58
4	Sebastian Vettel	Red Bull	32
5	Fernando Alonso	Ferrari	29
6	Valterri Bottas	Williams	28
7	Jenson Button	Mclaren	15
8	Felipe Massa	Williams	11
9	Nico Hulkenberg	Force India	10
10	Kevin Magnussen	Mclaren	6
11	Sergio Perez	Force India	5
12	Kimi Raikkonen	Ferrari	4
13	Jean Eric Vergne	Toro Rosso	1

*Kimi with only 4 points in a Ferrari

1	Mercedes	191
2	Red Bull	90
3	Williams	39
4	Ferrari	33
5	Mclaren	21
6	Force India	15
7	Toro Rosso	1
8	Lotus	0
9	Marussia	0
10	Sauber	0
11	Caterham	0

So there we go.

Not sure what it shows, but as I said. Its just for interest.

[Tazio]

Like!

[jens]

Even in the old system the points would be relatively close (100:91), despite Hamilton having 8 wins to Rosberg's four. So I don't think we can blame only the much-criticized point-system, which keeps Nico in the game. Hamilton would be massively ahead only by the so-called medal system.

Only 13 drivers in top6 all season, just like in 2011. The all-time low-record. Though Kvyat has a chance of being the 14th one.

[steveaki13]

I think todays point system leaves a similar outcome to Pre 2002 system really with a big difference between first and second.

The amazing thing is how much it changes in the 2003 points system. It was said at the time. That 10,8,6,5,4,3,2,1 did not favour the winner enough.

[journeyman racer]

Very good.

[steveaki13]

Its amazing what you do when bored.

[A FONDO]

That 10,8,6,5,4,3,2,1 did not favour the winner enough.

I agree.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

But we all know that the 10,8,6,5,4,3,2,1 system was brought in because Schumacher was winning the championship too early.

[steveaki13]

true, but he deserve too with the amount of races he won

Maybe that was the early "Show" improver

[jens]

So...

HAM - ROS 291 - 274
HAM - ROS 118 - 117
HAM - ROS 110 -  97

Well... the sad thing however is that unless some major drama happens to Rosberg in the next two races, Bernie will see his dream getting fulfilled and see the "good effect" of Abu Double in guaranteeing a title showdown. Without double points race Hamilton may well clinch the title even before the season finale. Later Ecclestone can use this argument as to why double points is a good idea and a platform for excitement...