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    Doesn't help when you hit power poles thought...

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    A Power Pole and water main

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    The new R4 kit only outside Europe? What’s the point to create a R4 kit to be used only outside Europe when Australia and New Zeeland have AP4 regulations and South America has the Maxi Rally car? OK, they are not FIA homologated but as far as I understand from the regional sporting regulations (http://www.fia.com/regulations/regul...lltext=&page=1 page 55 APRC and page 66 CODASUR) they are eligible to score points in the regional championships?

    http://www.fia.com/invitation-tender

    FIA Regional and National Rally Championships (outside Europe) - Call for expressions of interest (supply of "R4-Kits")

    From the document.

    “All candidates shall pay a nonrefundable fee of 15,000 (fifteen thousand euros) by 30 November
    2015 at the latest for their proposal to be taken into consideration within the framework of the
    selection process.”

    The dream opportunity for every village blacksmith.

    Some figures.

    TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS – CHARACTERISTICS OF THE VEHICLE (page 35)
    The vehicle will weigh around 1200 kg and be equipped with a 1.6 turbo engine producing less than 280 hp. (see Technical and Homologation Regulations for VR4KIT cars).

    The maximum internal diameter of the restrictor is 33mm (proposal TBC) (page 41 in the pdf document)

    The maximum boost pressure is 2.5 bar*.
    The homologated FIA boost control system (pop-off valve, see FIA Technical list n°43) must
    be fitted on the FIA pipe as described on the homologation form. (page 41)

    ii. The total cost of the "R4Kit" shall not exceed 105,000 (one hundred and five thousand
    euros). This amount shall be exclusive of all taxes and charges and shall not be increased for
    any reason during the first four years of homologation. (page 8 & 73)
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldF View Post
    ii. The total cost of the "R4Kit" shall not exceed 105,000 (one hundred and five thousand
    euros). This amount shall be exclusive of all taxes and charges and shall not be increased for
    any reason during the first four years of homologation. (page 8 & 73)
    Knowing FIA's cost control efficacy, those kits will probably be 30% to 40% more expensive...

    I also can't understand the implementation of this R4 kits...is it a way to control homologations at AP and Codasur countries?

    Either way, it would be more useful, for european and overseas costumers, to see FIA making pressure over manus to reduce R5 prices.
    Last edited by Rally Power; 15th November 2015 at 05:09.
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    What is the plan for Europe, if not part of this one?


    Quote Originally Posted by OldF View Post
    The new R4 kit only outside Europe? What’s the point to create a R4 kit to be used only outside Europe when Australia and New Zeeland have AP4 regulations and South America has the Maxi Rally car? OK, they are not FIA homologated but as far as I understand from the regional sporting regulations (http://www.fia.com/regulations/regul...lltext=&page=1 page 55 APRC and page 66 CODASUR) they are eligible to score points in the regional championships?

    http://www.fia.com/invitation-tender

    FIA Regional and National Rally Championships (outside Europe) - Call for expressions of interest (supply of "R4-Kits")

    From the document.

    “All candidates shall pay a nonrefundable fee of 15,000 (fifteen thousand euros) by 30 November
    2015 at the latest for their proposal to be taken into consideration within the framework of the
    selection process.”

    The dream opportunity for every village blacksmith.

    Some figures.

    TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS – CHARACTERISTICS OF THE VEHICLE (page 35)
    The vehicle will weigh around 1200 kg and be equipped with a 1.6 turbo engine producing less than 280 hp. (see Technical and Homologation Regulations for VR4KIT cars).

    The maximum internal diameter of the restrictor is 33mm (proposal TBC) (page 41 in the pdf document)

    The maximum boost pressure is 2.5 bar*.
    The homologated FIA boost control system (pop-off valve, see FIA Technical list n°43) must
    be fitted on the FIA pipe as described on the homologation form. (page 41)

    ii. The total cost of the "R4Kit" shall not exceed 105,000 (one hundred and five thousand
    euros). This amount shall be exclusive of all taxes and charges and shall not be increased for
    any reason during the first four years of homologation. (page 8 & 73)
    Keep It Simple Stupid !

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    Sounds a bit weird, but it's been rumored that Maxi Rally will be available in 2016 Spanish champ...
    Doubt they'll match R5 and RGT in the spanish tarmac, but maybe RFEA will use some balancing rules.
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    It looks like Baratec is shipping two Peugeot 208 MR with 1.6T enginfe for next year. Both will be run by RMC, one will run in tarmac Championship and the other will be driven by Nicolas Fuchs in the gravel Championship.

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    FIA has recently created new regulations for series outside Europe but now it seems that the “movement” is opposite, first cars developed outside Europe are imported to a European regional championship . When will we see the first AP4 kit in Europe? Btw, is it the same company developing the 1.6T engine as the 2400 NA Honda engine? http://www.oresteberta.com/producto-22.php?lang=es
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    Is it possible to build cars after this R4 regulations too compete in europe? Is it like the swedish R5 that you have to get National homologation by every countrys federation?
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    It seems Spanish rally championships will really use Maxi Rally cars!!!

    They'll be called N5, and beside imported cars from Argentina, spanish tuners will also build new models under MR/N5 rules. Their aim it's to give local competitors the chance of getting competitive 4wd cars, less expensive than R5's.

    Besides the already known RMC MR 208's imported from Argentina, AR Vidal Racing has undertaken the construction of a brand new N5 Swift for spanish Suzuki importer.

    http://www.suzukimotorsport.es/2015/...-categoria-n5/

    N5 rules are expected to be very close to MR rules, but could have minor changes in order to get the cars more competitive in tarmac. It's not clear if current R5 rules will be changed to ease a match with N5.
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