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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    Toyota Etios is not on sale in Europe, so nothing to do with TGR or TMG either.
    But if Toyota wants to they could task TMR to make a Yaris R4. For most people watching it would be a Toyota anyway.
    He would build another R4 building on the farm, or in Estland, that also has good rally traditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    But if Toyota wants to they could task TMR to make a Yaris R4. For most people watching it would be a Toyota anyway.
    He would build another R4 building on the farm, or in Estland, that also has good rally traditions.
    Toyota wants its name to be seen as successful one. They'd better wait a bit to see if there is any potential in R4. Otherwise it would be just a negative PR for a lot of money spent.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldF View Post
    The first R4 kit in Latin America but is it the first one also worldwide?
    https://www.oreca.com/en/news_oreca/...med-argentina/
    It was told some time ago that first order was made by Spanish tuner RMC, on behalf of Renault Spain; it’s their intention to enter local series with 2 Clio R4.
    Rally addict since 1982

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    But if Toyota wants to they could task TMR to make a Yaris R4. For most people watching it would be a Toyota anyway.
    He would build another R4 building on the farm, or in Estland, that also has good rally traditions.
    TGR has over 80 different Toyota´s in- and outside their facilities, they have studied all possible combinations. Now it seems that R2 is next one.
    "quattro best 4wd rallycar ever"

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    Have they started a R2 project?

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    Can anyone imagine Etios R4 sedan..?

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    https://www.oreca.com/constructeur/#fia-r4

    Looking at the Oreca webpage, i find it only in french. Due to a pre-set browser that automatically translates I can read about their rally project, under racing.

    the pdf explaining and trying to sell it, looks fine, but I can only find it in french, and google translate says it is too large to translate...
    https://www.oreca.com/wp-content/upl...compressed.pdf

    If I am correct in that all are in french, that is special, in it being a FIA project.

    My take is that they need to have Rally easy to find on the front page, not under builder, or racing.
    All regarding R4 need to be in english
    Do not call it a reasonabel price, it is not.

    Build a few on speculation, and use Sarrazin and one more driver in WRC and ERC to show the potential. Rent two of them out cheap to whoever want to test it.

    If not it could be a stillborn!

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    The Baratec kits are extremely expensive. I do not see their 1600T setup being any cheaper than the R4 kits from Oreca. Bring back Group N in using Focus RS and Subaru WRX STI's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    https://www.oreca.com/constructeur/#fia-r4

    Looking at the Oreca webpage, i find it only in french. Due to a pre-set browser that automatically translates I can read about their rally project, under racing.

    the pdf explaining and trying to sell it, looks fine, but I can only find it in french, and google translate says it is too large to translate...
    https://www.oreca.com/wp-content/upl...compressed.pdf

    If I am correct in that all are in french, that is special, in it being a FIA project.

    My take is that they need to have Rally easy to find on the front page, not under builder, or racing.
    All regarding R4 need to be in english
    Do not call it a reasonabel price, it is not.

    Build a few on speculation, and use Sarrazin and one more driver in WRC and ERC to show the potential. Rent two of them out cheap to whoever want to test it.

    If not it could be a stillborn!
    Sorry, it is not so difficult to find it in english...

    https://www.oreca.com/en/manufacturer/#fia-r4

    https://www.oreca.com/wp-content/upl...compressed.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    The Baratec kits are extremely expensive. I do not see their 1600T setup being any cheaper than the R4 kits from Oreca. Bring back Group N in using Focus RS and Subaru WRX STI's
    how much the cost? I'm a bit curious

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