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    Quote Originally Posted by Co-driven View Post
    Around 200 thousand dollars, plus the base car.
    Also not cheap...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldF View Post
    What is even more worrying is it says “The set of dampers, struts and springs are not included in the R4 kit.” If this is true 108000 € for the kit is far too much.
    That’s a bad surprise and probably other competition parts aren’t also included on the announced price kit. One gets the idea this Oreca kit will be a sort of BMW or Mercedes endless options list…We’ve also have to wait to know if any private tuner (or team) will really be able to buy the kit and make their R4 car or only FIA/Oreca authorized tuners will be able to build them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Co-driven View Post
    Around 200 thousand dollars, plus the base car.
    Don’t take me wrong Co-driven, but is that a reliable number? It seems too much, considering RMC is selling Baratec MR kit based cars (N5 in Spain) for around €160.000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post

    Don’t take me wrong Co-driven, but is that a reliable number? It seems too much, considering RMC is selling Baratec MR kit based cars (N5 in Spain) for around €160.000.
    That's the info I have for the car built by Baratec (not just the kit). I'd say that the price is from 180k-200k, but not far from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo Filipe Matos View Post
    I want see the first 308 R4-Kit!


    I've read somewhere the engine ORECA will use for the R4 FIA category is the Peugeot 1.6l THP from the 308 GTI

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    So an engine well known for many reliability issues both in stock and racing variants. But I can understand that it's the strongest available 1.6T in France so quite an expected choice.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    I know the guy who now works in Oreca as R4 technical project manager and he is really good so I hope it can be good kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by br21 View Post
    I know the guy who now works in Oreca as R4 technical project manager and he is really good so I hope it can be good kit.
    I know him too, and I confirm he is talented and very motivated for the project

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    So an engine well known for many reliability issues both in stock and racing variants. But I can understand that it's the strongest available 1.6T in France so quite an expected choice.

    is there in the tender or contract specified anything about needed reliability and rebuild intervals on the R4?
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    A thought experiment:
    Take a R3t car. New or used.
    Modify chassis, put in a 4wd system.

    What cost could a project like this cost?
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    If 150 000 will be the price of the new R4, why are drivers buy the R4 when you can buy a R5 almost new for 170-180 k €?
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