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    Quote Originally Posted by drive View Post
    clearly that is not R4 car, more R5+ anyhow, would be interesting to know more about specs of this suzuki, like price if its would be available. as for performance side - we will get some info from Lucky shortly on his facebook
    As I understand this swift uses more subaru internals with suzuki engine, as polish build 'protos' are made with mitsu transmision/engine- could be interesting for some regional championships!
    Yep, N5 isn’t R4, still it’s pretty close to it and both are a step down to R5 (using your analogy, they’re R5- not R5+). N5 is Spanish version of Argentina Maxi Rally and R4 uses their concept: silhouette cars with common mechanical kit. N5 also gets a light tuned PSA EP engine, although using a 34mm restrictor (33 for R4). N5 transmission is based on the Impreza, while R4 has gearbox and diffs similar to R5.

    On this year Spanish tarmac events, N5 top drivers were most of the time behind R5 crews, but on gravel series Suarez (RMC 208 N5) was able to match the competition and win the series (his talent surely helped). Suzuki, through ARVidal, has been using the N5 Swift for two seasons and Renault, with RMC, entered the Clio N5 this year but is planning to replace it by a R4 Clio next year, as it’s believed R4 cars will be slightly more competitive (and expensive) than current N5.
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    In portuguese regulations, R4 under RC2 category.

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    Good news from my country:

    Indonesian Motor Association recently allowed AP4 rally cars to compete in M.1 class at Indonesian Rally & Sprint Rally Championship.

    For sure the interest towards R4 are getting less & less likely

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    Toyota Yaris R4 to compete in Poland by Evolve Motorsport
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    Yes, Toyota Yaris R4 with Oreca’s R4 kit is being built by Evolve Motorsport in Warsaw. They say the price of the Yaris R4 is 20% lower than any R5 car and the running costs are up to 40% lower. The car is going to make its debut in the first half of 2018. More about it here:
    http://www.evolve-motorsport.com/yarisr4evolve/
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Very cool. Evolve Motorsport seems to be doing some top notch work. The chassis work is great and the proto style cars they have are also very good. The chassis layout is a step above the Dytko proto cars.

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    Evolve press release is more dreaming than reality. For sure not such car in first half of 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    Yes, Toyota Yaris R4 with Oreca’s R4 kit is being built by Evolve Motorsport in Warsaw. More about it here:http://www.evolve-motorsport.com/yarisr4evolve/
    The Evolve Yaris looks great!

    One of the positive things of R4 is allowing private tuners to be more involved in rallying; through them new brands and models will hit the stages. Since Gr.R introduction the sport has lived under the monopoly of manus official tuners, shrinking rally cars diversity and inflating their prices; it’s time for a change and R4 can be the start of it. Fingers crossed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    One of the positive things of R4 is allowing private tuners to be more involved in rallying; through them new brands and models will hit the stages. Since Gr.R introduction the sport has lived under the monopoly of manus official tuners, shrinking rally cars diversity and inflating their prices; it’s time for a change and R4 can be the start of it. Fingers crossed!
    There were only two manufacturers involved in N4 which was the top class before introducing S2000 class. There were nine manufacturers in S2000 class (some only minor) and now there are five R5 manufacturers with two more coming in 2018. How is that shrinking diversity?

    The prices of S2000 were indeed much higher than N4 but compared to the price level at S2000 popularity peek the R5 prices of today are reasonably lower (despite being naturally still way higher than N4). The fact is that there has been no inflation of prices in last couple of years at the top regional level. The costs were highest at around year 2011 not now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    There were only two manufacturers involved in N4 which was the top class before introducing S2000 class. There were nine manufacturers in S2000 class (some only minor) and now there are five R5 manufacturers with two more coming in 2018. How is that shrinking diversity?
    The prices of S2000 were indeed much higher than N4 but compared to the price level at S2000 popularity peek the R5 prices of today are reasonably lower (despite being naturally still way higher than N4). The fact is that there has been no inflation of prices in last couple of years at the top regional level. The costs were highest at around year 2011 not now.
    You’re mentioning a very specific case, when N4 homologations become rare, but the sport was always much more than a specific case. The difference of available models homologated in Gr.N/A (from N1 to A8) in any time of the 80’s or 90’s (or previously during Gr.1 to 4 era) and those currently homologated in R1, R2, R3 or R5 is gigantic and cannot be denied. Many of those times homologations were developed by private tuners, with manus permission.

    Having more rally models and brands available is a progress and there should be room for private tuners alongside manus motorsport divisions. That’s what R4 is bringing back.
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