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    I think most will agree, 108k euro before transport and misc fees is a little high for a car to bridge the gap between R2 and R5. A decent used R5 with spares can now be had for $160-180k. A new R4 with spares will be just as much.

    I really like the idea of a 4wd class based on an actual production chassis such as an STI. Just like the old Group N days, but more like the older R4 class with freedom to modify suspension arms, subframes etc. The drivetribe article posted earlier in this thread pretty much nailed it in my opinion.
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    Older version of R4 for Mitsubishi and Subaru was bad way. It helped to modify some parts, but in basic it was still group N car and other parts were not dimensioned for other stronger parts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by electroliquid View Post
    After the 3D drawings on the Lada and Dacia, Oreca is now showing an Etios (Toyota’s B segment car for South America). Apparently their target for the R4 isn’t the European countries. If so, why change R5 regs?
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    New project from Dytko Sport - Nissan Micra is being prepared for R4 kit:
    http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/z-mysla-o-r4,79129

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    Looks great! With the R4 kit it'll certainly be more expensive than with the usual Dytko proto specs.

    Same news in English: https://www.facebook.com/ProtoCars/p...99714613568412
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    I wonder if Dytko Micra will have R4 & proto version..?

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    Nice but price of an r4 will go to 180.000euro easy!

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    maybe it would need some European cup for R4 cars. Like the R-GT cup few years ago, but with better promotion and avoiding all the weak points of the R-GT cup concept.
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    As a introduction class for 4wd as it was intended, the Dytko Proto way of thinking, of keeping cost down, would have been a winner. Both among young drivers on the way up, gentleman drivers and clubdrivers in national series.

    Maybe they need to call that option R3, since current R3 Fwd is slowing in popularity.
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    The Dytko cars are great cars and everything is designed in 3D cad so the fit and finish is also very good. For $65k you can have a decent set up too. This would have been the way to go. Utilizing the old Evo or STI power plants is also good one since parts are easily available. Maybe call it R4 lite

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