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6th October 2014, 17:28 #21
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The trouble is, the only reason Jules car hit the truck is due to a an extreme freak coming together of circumstances;
Jules car was travelling at significant speed, this being in fading light, heavy rain and double waved yellows - why so fast?
The truck was reversing into the trajectory of Jules out of control (but moving nose forward in a straight trajectory)Marussia
The rear of the truck had a sloping overhang, cruelly just at the height of an F1 cockpit.
As harsh as it might sound, this is a dangerous sport. We should not lose sight of the fact that a marshall was killed last year (I think) in Canada.... we carried on then, is this to be seen as any different than another sad but freak accident?Opinions are like ar5eholes, everyone has one.
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6th October 2014, 17:51 #22
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6th October 2014, 17:58 #23
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there needs to be a huge shakeup at the top of F1 - It was stupid this race was allowed to progress when the rains arrived again Plus the did not even listen to one of the top drivers. This great sport is turning to SH!T !!!!!!
Obama to Biden - "Let the Welfare checks rain upon the Earth - I am going to a barbecue"
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6th October 2014, 18:16 #24
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6th October 2014, 18:29 #25
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For those who do want to see the video there's a one here. http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=818_1412603603
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6th October 2014, 18:57 #26
Horrible, horrible incident.
TBH though I'm not surprised that we've seen someone hit a recovery vehicle, it's just so tragic that it was in such a way. To my mind there has been an issue for a long time, one is that these telehandlers are allowed to go trackside while the race is live. Whilst most of us don't want to see a safety car, they do exist for a reason and would have stopped this from happening. The other is that the drivers routinely ignore the flags. In the UK a yelow flag is defined in the MSA Blue Book as:
"Yellow flag – Waved: Great danger. Slow down considerably. Be prepared to suddenly change from the projected racing line, or take other evasive action including stopping if necessary"
Drivers clearly haven't been doing this for years, and now one of them has paid a very heavy price for it. There isn't a great rethink to be had here, just get back to drivers actually following the rules and stewards enforcing them.
As for the rain...well it was a factor, but if Bianchi had followed the rules, no problem. There's no big rethink to be had on that front in my mind.You're so beige, you probably think this signature is about someone else.
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6th October 2014, 19:24 #27
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I disagree. It's an easily avoidable incident.
Someone mentioned canopies on the race thread, I actually don't see this as something a copy would have helped with. BUT there are two things which people have touched on.
1. Why was he going so quick in a yellow flag zone? If he wasn't so horrendously injured he should be getting a race ban. He needlessly endangered his life and the lives of the trackside workers.
2. Where was the safety car? Where was the full track yellow? By having a zone of yellows you still reward a driver for driving quickly through the yellow flags....
I'm sorry, but this is the typical motorsportforums F1 forum way of dealing with it..... ie it doesn't happen all of the time so it's termed as being a freak incident so do nothing and hope it doesn't happen again. It happened to Brundle before, once is too many times for this sort of thing, twice is just a joke. It's not going to kill the sport to have safety cars more often and be harder on drivers who are driving faster than they should be in these sorts of conditions, it might have already killed a driver to not be harsher though......Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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6th October 2014, 19:37 #28
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Really horrible accident - the Marussia even lifts the tractor and turns it about 90 degrees. Very, very heavy impact.
If Bianchi would have touched the back of the tractor with his head directly, he would have been dead before the wreck standing still. Hope he survives - and in a more livable way than it is feared of Michael Schumacher ..
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6th October 2014, 19:41 #29
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6th October 2014, 19:41 #30
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Wow that was a horrible impact. Even more than you have in your mind before seeing it.
I noticed Brundle looked very shaken by the incident. Having had almost the same accident himself in 1994 and ever since worrying about that happening.I still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
Meeke had a big gap to Rossel after stage 3 (20 sec) at stage 4 had a puncture and now the gap to Rossel is just 2 sec Gryazin strangely slow,anybody now why?...
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