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14th September 2014, 00:33 #471
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Surely you recognize that there are two different points in your post.
Corner cutting has always been part of the sport - but the question is when does corner cutting turn into shortcutting (which is a rule violation)? Not only is shortcutting unfair, it is also potentially unsafe and inconvenience to rally organisers (as proved by Mikkelsen's let's-unroot-some-potatoes -shortcut in Poland) who have to foot the bill for damages.
This is a problem, albeit not a huge one. And for this reason, there should be clear, explicit rule that says what is an acceptable cut and what is not - plus what the penalty should be. As it stands now, rally stewards (which do have permanent membership from rally to rally) have to pass sentences without any reference from the rules and hence the varying standards.
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14th September 2014, 00:47 #472
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The fight with Paddon and Ostberg is on!
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14th September 2014, 00:51 #473
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The pressure is on this morning, looks like all or nothing from a few of them
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14th September 2014, 00:51 #474
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14th September 2014, 00:57 #475
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Art. 14.2. The organisers may erect barriers or any other hindrances where they believe competitors have deviated from the roadway during reconnaissance or the first running of the stages.
for me the decision of the stewards was based on this...
there were posts there to prevent cutting so i think it was too obviuos right from the start...
if the posts weren't there i think he would get away with it
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14th September 2014, 01:14 #477
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I spoke about shortcutting (whole car off the road). That has been common thing in Germany and other rallies (driving straight through some S-turns for example).
Totally disagree. When rules lead to picking random situations and giving random penalties than it is huge problem.Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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14th September 2014, 01:21 #478
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Bucca is the roughest stage of the rally, with stones on the road and bedrock poking through for much of the first half. It becomes smoother towards the finish. The clay-based roads are fast, with big straights dotted with crests and jumps.
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14th September 2014, 01:23 #479
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It's understandable if the driver was looking for an advantage but it didn't look like it, more a case of carrying too much speed and scrubbing speed off on the grass. How is the deviation rule applied to genuine overshoots or similar?
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14th September 2014, 01:30 #480
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It can be argued to be either random or consistent, depending on one's view. Random because there have been two cases with two different penalties - yes, I see your point here.
But consistent because first time this matter surfaced in Poland, where penalty was small, and all top drivers were now expected to know about the issue. So, when rule was included in the bulletin before the rally, drivers were supposed to have been forewarned not to deviate from the route. And when Meeke did it despite incident in Poland and despite explicit ruling in bulletin, it can be argued that his act was willful, deliberate and thus due for harsher punishment. Effectively, next driver to do so should expect even harsher punishment, hence the pattern.
This reminds me of the underwear-gate few years back. It had similar air to it, drivers were forewarned, some did not believe and got hit with small penalties. Some did not believe even then and got hit with harsher penalties. Now there have been no top drivers without fireproof underwear, they know FIA means business. Same should apply here - difference being that WRC regs do not have explicit ruling (for now).
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