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Thread: Arizona shooting range accident
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4th September 2014, 23:24 #81
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I personally think only well trained professionals need to get near guns
I still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
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4th September 2014, 23:25 #82
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5th September 2014, 00:00 #83
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5th September 2014, 00:51 #84
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Logically if you want to change behaviour, then you change the law and then enforce it. The problem is that in the case of the Second Amendment, it is seen as sacrosanct, despite the costs associated.
Whenever we have these sorts of threads, the same objections are raised and the same solutions offered; meanwhile the United States also asks the same questions, does nothing and then six weeks later forgets about it until the next time that someone destroys people - even if the guns are obtained legally and even if they happen to destroy innocent people.
Der Tod eines Menschen: das ist eine Katastrophe. Hunderttausend Tote: das ist eine Statistik!
(The death of one man: that is a catastrophe. One hundred thousand deaths: that is a statistic!)
- Kurt Tucholsky, Französischer Witz (1932)
America likes to yell "Freedom!" in the face of statistics.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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5th September 2014, 01:57 #85
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And its a good point.
You could add;
According to polls these same people, 92% claim to be Christian" and 88% "believe" in astrology.
How's that for cognitive dissonance?
And allegedly 47% of the country believe the earth and man are more or less 6,000 years old..
Are these people I want running around armed to the teeth?
Nope.Last edited by janvanvurpa; 5th September 2014 at 02:05.
John Vanlandingham
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Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
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5th September 2014, 02:02 #86
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Not totally.
Some of them are pointless, one is archaic, one is barbaric and the rest are fine.
This is an 11 minute read:
http://rollo75.blogspot.com.au/2014/...s-bill-of.html
I think that the existence of a Bill of Rights, limits people's vision to the extent of what's committed to paper. I for instance at common law have the right to quiet enjoyment of property, a right to travel, a right to be forgotten... the Ninth Amendment hints at this but "The Ninth Amendment obviously does not create federally enforceable rights." Doe v. Bolton (1973).
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/fed.../179/case.html
Under common law principles in Commonwealth countries, rights are assumed to exist unless hedged in by law; that includes rights which haven't been thought of yet.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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5th September 2014, 08:26 #89
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5th September 2014, 11:15 #90
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