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    Quote Originally Posted by RAS007 View Post
    This is the central question, re: M-Sport. My best guess is that Malcolm is trying to hang in there until either a major sponsor is found, or until Ford comes back into the picture.
    Reason why M-Sport is in WRC is to sell cars, that's where the money comes from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    of course M sport can win championships with a duel of good drivers ,even without Ford backing.
    Fiesta is a capable car at tarmac and gravel. Their economics allows them to be present at all wrc rounds,cant find any reason why not to be champions, if the driver is capable.
    That's a mighty big if you have there.

    It does seem like MW Motorsport, much like Pro-drive before them (and with some of the same key people)
    are themselves not really devoted to the idea to be champignons . Drivers capable of being champignons cost a LOT of money... That seems to be in conflict with Malcolm's evident intention to MAKE lots of money and to expand the business into a grand scheme...because the big growth in all kinds of other (other than winning Whirled Rally Champignonskit title) operations didn't happen by accident or just spring up like mushrooms after a rain.

    In my somewhat simplistic view and limited experience: if you want to fight for WRC wins, then fight for WRC wins with a little --sorry folks my Angleski fails me--so I use a word from when I was fighting for skills to do another motorsport--- with a little 'envishet'...That's Square-head talk and is 3 parts: 'en' = one; then 'vis' (not to be confused with fis) is 'vision' or 'view' and then the end 'het' is like ness...One-vision-ness..

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    And if we look back at all the years of M-sport that seems to be lacking especially when we look at how guys there seem to languish and lose direction or momentum.


    It seems Malcolm wants a car business empire in Cumbria and it seems he is winning that battle.
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    Time to move the above discussion to the M-Sport thread.

    Now back to Ostberg...

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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post
    That's a mighty big if you have there.

    It does seem like MW Motorsport, much like Pro-drive before them (and with some of the same key people)
    are themselves not really devoted to the idea to be champignons . Drivers capable of being champignons cost a LOT of money... That seems to be in conflict with Malcolm's evident intention to MAKE lots of money and to expand the business into a grand scheme...because the big growth in all kinds of other (other than winning Whirled Rally Champignonskit title) operations didn't happen by accident or just spring up like mushrooms after a rain.

    In my somewhat simplistic view and limited experience: if you want to fight for WRC wins, then fight for WRC wins with a little --sorry folks my Angleski fails me--so I use a word from when I was fighting for skills to do another motorsport--- with a little 'envishet'...That's Square-head talk and is 3 parts: 'en' = one; then 'vis' (not to be confused with fis) is 'vision' or 'view' and then the end 'het' is like ness...One-vision-ness..

    (va fan säger vi på engelska?)

    And if we look back at all the years of M-sport that seems to be lacking especially when we look at how guys there seem to languish and lose direction or momentum.


    It seems Malcolm wants a car business empire in Cumbria and it seems he is winning that battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post

    In my somewhat simplistic view and limited experience: if you want to fight for WRC wins, then fight for WRC wins with a little --sorry folks my Angleski fails me--so I use a word from when I was fighting for skills to do another motorsport--- with a little 'envishet'...That's Square-head talk and is 3 parts: 'en' = one; then 'vis' (not to be confused with fis) is 'vision' or 'view' and then the end 'het' is like ness...One-vision-ness.[I].

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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post

    In my somewhat simplistic view and limited experience: if you want to fight for WRC wins, then fight for WRC wins with a little --sorry folks my Angleski fails me--so I use a word from when I was fighting for skills to do another motorsport--- with a little 'envishet'...That's Square-head talk and is 3 parts: 'en' = one; then 'vis' (not to be confused with fis) is 'vision' or 'view' and then the end 'het' is like ness...One-vision-ness.[I].

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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post
    That's a mighty big if you have there.

    It does seem like MW Motorsport, much like Pro-drive before them (and with some of the same key people)
    are themselves not really devoted to the idea to be champignons . Drivers capable of being champignons cost a LOT of money... That seems to be in conflict with Malcolm's evident intention to MAKE lots of money and to expand the business into a grand scheme...because the big growth in all kinds of other (other than winning Whirled Rally Champignonskit title) operations didn't happen by accident or just spring up like mushrooms after a rain.

    In my somewhat simplistic view and limited experience: if you want to fight for WRC wins, then fight for WRC wins with a little --sorry folks my Angleski fails me--so I use a word from when I was fighting for skills to do another motorsport--- with a little 'envishet'...That's Square-head talk and is 3 parts: 'en' = one; then 'vis' (not to be confused with fis) is 'vision' or 'view' and then the end 'het' is like ness...One-vision-ness..

    (va fan säger vi på engelska?)

    And if we look back at all the years of M-sport that seems to be lacking especially when we look at how guys there seem to languish and lose direction or momentum.


    It seems Malcolm wants a car business empire in Cumbria and it seems he is winning that battle.

    In other words, Malcolm is not really interested in winning, anymore. If it happens as a byproduct of expanding his car business, great, but it is not the main goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lundefaret View Post
    Single mindedness?
    Yeah ....best..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAS007 View Post
    In other words, Malcolm is not really interested in winning, anymore. If it happens as a byproduct of expanding his car business, great, but it is not the main goal.

    It seems quite evident...especially looking at driver choice over the years..
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post

    Don't understand 'envishet', even when explained?

    You're not trying hard enough.
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