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    Mads Ostberg

    It's a shame that Mads isn't able to go faster than what he is currently showing.

    It seems to me that he has the gift of driving, and the adequate balls, not even mentionning the experience...and car.
    I have a feeling that his pace notes are not precise enough. I am just looking at his driving and cannot understand his norwegian notes so not sure...but that's what it looks like to my eye anyway.

    I mean by that:

    1. the excessive sideways driving
    2. the lack of commitment on specific fast entry corners into dead slow ones (when it's blind only).

    In my view these are signs of a good driver who is unsure about EXACTLY what the upcoming corners are like and/or the distances between them (exact racing lines and braking points).

    Maybe a bit of coaching would do him good.

    That's my two cents.

    Any ideas?
    http://wrcbehindthestages.blogspot.com

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    I agree, i think its a confidence thing which is a result of notes. Maybe a change in system isquired? Kris is showing the car still has the pace so I think Mads just needs to get the confidence back.

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    In a previous era, without pace-notes, driving sideways was the safest way to get around corners – not knowing how much a corner tightened.
    Now with pace-notes, and stages repeated year on year – this shouldn’t happen. As already said; maybe Mads needs to rethink his pacenote system?
    And whilst sideways looks spectacular – it’s not the quickest way; circuit style driving seems to be the most efficient way to drive these cars.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    In a previous era, without pace-notes, driving sideways was the safest way to get around corners – not knowing how much a corner tightened.
    Now with pace-notes, and stages repeated year on year – this shouldn’t happen. As already said; maybe Mads needs to rethink his pacenote system?
    And whilst sideways looks spectacular – it’s not the quickest way; circuit style driving seems to be the most efficient way to drive these cars.
    Which, in turn, is extremely boring to watch, unless one is impressed by the sight of a car cornering as if on rails. And to think people wonder why the sport is dying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell View Post
    Which, in turn, is extremely boring to watch, unless one is impressed by the sight of a car cornering as if on rails. And to think people wonder why the sport is dying...
    there is always drift championships and ghymkhana for people like you where you can see real drivers going sideways all the time.... not need to bother with rallying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell View Post
    Which, in turn, is extremely boring to watch, unless one is impressed by the sight of a car cornering as if on rails. And to think people wonder why the sport is dying...
    It's not boring for everybody, sideways look like somewhat struggling to me, it's not very entertentaining.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell View Post
    Which, in turn, is extremely boring to watch, unless one is impressed by the sight of a car cornering as if on rails. And to think people wonder why the sport is dying...
    But what is the solution? You can't un-invent technology. Do we give them more power and make them RWD? Encourage event organisers to stop using the same stages year on year? I won't even suggest getting rid of pace-notes....that's not going to happen.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    But what is the solution? You can't un-invent technology. Do we give them more power and make them RWD? Encourage event organisers to stop using the same stages year on year? I won't even suggest getting rid of pace-notes....that's not going to happen.
    Many years ago when notes were banned in national events you had every Tom, Dick and Harry driving over the stages weeks before the start "on their way to work" or "out for a Sunday drive" or "visiting friends". All that sort of nonsense. Impossible to police.

    RWD- great idea. New stages- would help but many organisers find it hard enough finding new roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noel157 View Post
    Many years ago when notes were banned in national events you had every Tom, Dick and Harry driving over the stages weeks before the start "on their way to work" or "out for a Sunday drive" or "visiting friends". All that sort of nonsense. Impossible to police.

    RWD- great idea. New stages- would help but many organisers find it hard enough finding new roads.
    You forgot "I was out mountain biking...."

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    But what is the solution? You can't un-invent technology. Do we give them more power and make them RWD? Encourage event organisers to stop using the same stages year on year? I won't even suggest getting rid of pace-notes....that's not going to happen.
    but you can ban certain technology.

    harder tyres and more power should do the trick imo.

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