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    Toyota GT86

    Do anyone know the price of the GT86 R3?
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    Aprox 38 000 Euro x VAT, before option packages for the racing car. No details I can find on the R3 Rally car yet.
    I guess price for the R3 will come right after Rally Germany, where it will be used as course car.

    "TMG is the GT86 CS-R3 show the public the first time at the Rally Germany, the WRC around Trier Isolde is moving ahead as a first prototype car of the event. This application will also serve to determine the final specifications of AUO. As a result, the purchase price and more information will be announced."

    Details Race car here:
    http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/mot...st_2014_00.pdf
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    And there we have the price on the Rally version and that is 79 000 € before VAT!!???

    Why in h*ell is it twice as expensive to build a rally car compared with a racing car. Does that make sense?
    Tech gurus of the forum pls explain this to a simple Viking??

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    It's nothing strange. Volumes make incredible difference in the price of parts. Just an example... Your designer works for 50 Euro/hour and he spends 1000 hours on the development of one part. If You make 100 of those parts You must put 500 Euro of his work into every part. If You make 1000000 of those parts You put only 5 cents of his work into every single part. Add to that the fact that people in motorsport development are generally more skilled and therefore more expensive than those in serial projects. Same law applies to all tools, buildings, energies etc. You need.

    Another very important thing is that for high volumes You can use much more effective ways of production like forged, cast or at best pressed parts instead of welded or machined ones etc.

    Than You have materials. In motorsport use You must use better materials. Usually the curve showing dependence of quality and price is exponential which means that for material with 2x better properties You don't pay 2x more but way way more (it's not only because of the material itself but also because of the volumes in which such material is produced).

    Now You buy the material. If You buy the same one for serial production and You take 10000 tons per year You sure pay way less per ton than if You buy 1 ton per year.

    One example from my job (quite extreme since it's plastics but still). We have ordered a prototype part now which is milled from a block of plastic and than polished. The one part costs more than thousand Euro for one piece. In serial production the same part will be produced in hundreds thousand pieces per year using a mould. The price per one part is going to be less than one Euro for one!
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    I didn't see any video footage of the car during Deutschland rally. Dit anyone find any. What did it look like on the stages?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaCo View Post
    I didn't see any video footage of the car during Deutschland rally. Dit anyone find any. What did it look like on the stages?
    http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/media/vide...112--80--.html

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    Extremely boring footage. No disrespect to Isolde Holdereid but no handbrakes or oversteer! Was expecting something a little more entertaining.

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    Looked boring on the stages indeed.

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    a curiosity: someone knows the name of the song at the beginning and during the video?thanks

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