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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Agree, but marketing people just love to have messages like "this car has been tested in hardest condistions etz..." and also I do believe some good things still comes out to production cars from rallying. Dampers was mentioned. Yes. Good example.
    They can put the same slogans anyway. Very few buyers care about technologies in their cars.

    Those dampers from your example... such dampers are ridiculously expensive for common cars. It's something different to speak about brands like Porsche and Ferrari or about Peugeot and Škoda. The first group can sell true hi-tech stuff for adequate prices. The second fights for every Euro they can make out of one car. Porsche makes average profit on one car over 16500 Euro, Škoda 750, VW even less and Seat -300 (from VAG brands). What kind of hi-tech can they put in?

    I would say that what may have a real influence on stock production is tyres.
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    I would suggest to remove the rule that only 2 nominated cars can score points for a team. Remove that and young, but also experienced local drivers will get a chance at their event. If a top driver retires it is not such a big problem for the team since other cars can still score. I understand that small teams cannot affort to run a lot of cars, but that's a part of rallying. If we had 10 proper teams with 2 cars this wouldn't be necessary, but this is far from the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doon View Post
    The fact its the sport would be more popular if the results were unpredictable. This will never happen if one team dominate, no matter how much you promote the show, or how many live stages, final day shootouts, or pit stops there are.
    Couldn't have put it better myself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    They can put the same slogans anyway. Very few buyers care about technologies in their cars.

    Those dampers from your example... such dampers are ridiculously expensive for common cars. It's something different to speak about brands like Porsche and Ferrari or about Peugeot and Škoda. The first group can sell true hi-tech stuff for adequate prices. The second fights for every Euro they can make out of one car. Porsche makes average profit on one car over 16500 Euro, Škoda 750, VW even less and Seat -300 (from VAG brands). What kind of hi-tech can they put in?

    I would say that what may have a real influence on stock production is tyres.
    What you´re saying is that marketing people must tell how expensive dampers are on a rally car? You know they just telling what´s needed. And they can squeeze anything out of nothing if needed. Rallying makes better cars in many ways. Marketing people knows how to use that fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaCo View Post
    I would suggest to remove the rule that only 2 nominated cars can score points for a team. Remove that and young, but also experienced local drivers will get a chance at their event. If a top driver retires it is not such a big problem for the team since other cars can still score. I understand that small teams cannot affort to run a lot of cars, but that's a part of rallying. If we had 10 proper teams with 2 cars this wouldn't be necessary, but this is far from the case.
    This would benefit MSport quite a bit, given typically half the field lately is in a Ford of some sort. Even if they are at the bottom half of the field these days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munkvy View Post
    This would benefit MSport quite a bit, given typically half the field lately is in a Ford of some sort. Even if they are at the bottom half of the field these days!
    No, it'll benefit VW
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    This WRC mess will make ERC explode in numbers in 2015!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    This WRC mess will make ERC explode in numbers in 2015!
    ERC will not explode in numbers... it will always be a nice championship for all the B and C class drivers to test their skills, it is a nice championship to follow but it cannot be taken seriously... when was the last time the ERC produced a first class driver who would be a threat to the WRC ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    ERC will not explode in numbers... it will always be a nice championship for all the B and C class drivers to test their skills, it is a nice championship to follow but it cannot be taken seriously... when was the last time the ERC produced a first class driver who would be a threat to the WRC ?
    About the same time the APRC did

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    ERC will not explode in numbers... it will always be a nice championship for all the B and C class drivers to test their skills, it is a nice championship to follow but it cannot be taken seriously... when was the last time the ERC produced a first class driver who would be a threat to the WRC ?
    From current WRC active drivers it's Neuville, Mikkelsen, Hänninen, Bouffier...

    Not that bad at all I would say...
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