The solution to the WRC

[Doon]

I'd be really surprised if VW would not be paying all their drivers.

It would be interesting to find out who is paid by the manufacturers, who pays for their seat with their own money, and who pays from sponsors. My guess is;

Ogier + Latvala - Paid by VW
Mikkelsen - Not paid, but doesn't pay for his seat
Hirvonen - Sponsors pay for his seat
Evans - Not paid, but doesn't pay for his seat
Ostberg - Sponsors/family money
Meeke - Not paid, but doesn't pay for his seat
Neuville - Paid by Hyundai
Hanninen + Sordo - Not paid, but doesn't pay for his seat
Paddon - Sponsors pay for seat

[N.O.T]

It would be interesting to find out who is paid by the manufacturers, who pays for their seat with their own money, and who pays from sponsors. My guess is;

Ogier + Latvala - Paid by VW
Mikkelsen - Not paid, but doesn't pay for his seat
Hirvonen - Sponsors pay for his seat
Evans - Not paid, but doesn't pay for his seat
Ostberg - Sponsors/family money
Meeke - Not paid, but doesn't pay for his seat
Neuville - Paid by Hyundai
Hanninen + Sordo - Not paid, but doesn't pay for his seat
Paddon - Sponsors pay for seat

what is the point of guessing for such things ??

[Doon]

what is the point of guessing for such things ??

What is the point of anything? To pass time before our inevitable demise?

[N.O.T]

What is the point of anything? To pass time before our inevitable demise?

that is way too pesimistic... i like it.

But really discussion about salaries and who pays and who doesn't and all remind me of the F1 girls discussing the hair styles of their lifestyle idols... plus it is pretty much obvious in most cases.

[Doon]

that is way too pesimistic... i like it.

Well this is a revelation; N.O.T actually likes something!

But really discussion about salaries and who pays and who doesn't and all remind me of the F1 girls discussing the hair styles of their lifestyle idols... plus it is pretty much obvious in most cases.

It was mainly to point out that no money could have been made by brokering a deal with a driver to give up a percentage of his future salary, in exchange for letting them bend millions of pounds worth of WRC car. This is because there are only a couple of the guys being paid.

[Brother John]

Had I been the boss of the Ford rally team and thinking of how to make money, I would have asked the manager for shares into the driver's future salaries with a hypothetical future manu who pays..., in exchange for having a lot of patience with all the crashes etc. Had I done that I would be reaping the rewards today...

Like most sports it's more about money and salaries!
Look at Tennis, Golf, F1 and many more, you name it.
Where is the real sport?

[OldF]

I don’t know how to get people more interested in rallying. Maybe these days there are lot more options for amusement than in the past. In the past before youtube I was happy if there was at least something on the TV. Nowadays everything is on pay channels and I’m not going to pay 20-30 € / month and watch about 5% of the programs.

rjbetty mentioned the 2003 season as one of the best. Imo the end of 90s and beginning of 2000 were good. I also liked the seasons 1990-1994 when Auriol, Kankkunen and Sainz took turns championships. Sainz had a bad season in 1993 when he was driving a Lancia but returned to the “team” in 1994 with Subaru. In those days the cars had around 400 hp so the power figures was at the right level.


I made some small statistics about winners and champions from 1979-2013.



Lancia ruled the field during 1987-1989 but then came Toyota and they were quite equal.



Below a list of winners. Champion in red, 2^nd in blue and 3^rd in green. First part in this post and the rest in the next one.

[OldF]

[OldF]

Have you guys already read Martin Holme’s article “Rallying’s confidentiality crisis” in newest issue of MotorsportMonday (pages 98-100)?

“The logical conclusion is to deduce that the WRC promoter is no more than an agent who seeks to profit from the organisers being dealt with. But for whose advantage? Is the WRC promoter any more than a fund raiser for FIA? Where does promotion of the World Rally Championship come into the picture?

http://digital.motorsportmonday.com//launch.aspx?eid=7b859551-0d52-4feb-b2a1-3b0bb3a5a7cf

Very much my feelings.

PS The idle time is very short before being thrown out of the forum.

[AndyRAC]

Hmmm, can't say I'm impressed with the Promoters..... In fact I'd say they've been poor! All they've done is sell rights to Pay TV..... Marvellous.....Not.