Curtains ?

[ioan]

well if that motor is not detuned then this is terrible in my opinion

They are all limited to 19000 revs/min.
Why would Ferrari detune the engines any more, to get some bad publicity compared to the Renault engines used by the sister cars at RedBull?

[Roamy]

that is what i am afraid of ioan

[Hawkmoon]

I think the quality of the car has a lot to do with it. I think Newey's first Red Bull is proving to be a bit of an MP4-18 Mark II. The only driver who seems able to get any speed out of the thing is Webber and only in qualifying. So, to be fair to Liuzzi and Speed, they haven't got much to work with.

Their fates will probably be tied to the plans that Berger and Mateschitz have for their respective shares in the team.

[DimitraF1]

ioan and fousto are friends?:P tifosi scam :P

[ioan]

ioan and fousto are friends?:P tifosi scam :P

???

[Ian McC]

Don't you call them drapes over there Fousto?

[pino]

ioan and fousto are friends?:P tifosi scam :P

Did you read my 1st warning ? I've asked to stop posting nonsense and to be more constructive when posting. I am not going to ask that again...

[Ian McC]

To be honest I almost forgot they were still racing, especially Speed, can't remember the last time I heard his name mentioned on the TV coverage, still, doesn't help that it's a crap car.

[e2mtt]

I think the Torro Rosso is just atrociously bad. So far qualifying, the 2 drivers have gridded one after the other 2 out of 3 races, and seperated by 2 spots once. (Speed +.9, Luizzi +.4 & +.3)
It is going to be very tough to ever show any brilliance in that car. Unless one of them starts out-qualifying or out-racing the other by a large margin, or STR gets better in a big hurry, both SS & VL will be out of F1.
(And the Ferrari customer engine might just be junk... Spyker & STR own the back of the grid.)

[Jag_Warrior]

Speed seems to have gotten off on the wrong foot with STR this season. My guess is he'll be the one who takes a bullet. If he's lucky, he may find a ride in Champ Car (that doesn't require him to bring a $4 million check). Otherwise, maybe he'll be able to land a test drive seat somewhere. He'd probably rather be a tester in F1, as CCWS seats that pay are few. And being a tester at least keeps his name in the F1 mix.