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    I'm still speechless about this tragic incident. Our country (NL) lost 194 souls and is in absolute shock and anger. It's the only thing people speak about. I've just returned from Portugal this morning and stood still at the huge amount of flowers at Schiphol airport. Surreal.

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    Angry lost of MH17

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    ... Our country (NL) lost 194 souls and is in absolute shock and anger...
    I come from Holland too. We are indeed in shock, angry and furious about these situation. These rebels and Putin are idiots!

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    I think perhaps Malaysian Airlines won't last much longer. With these two incidents although unrelated and there's no rational reason to have to avoid the airline; we don't think rationally and I would be nervous to fly Malaysian.

    Most likely is they'll be taken over by another airline.
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    Another awful tragedy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    I think perhaps Malaysian Airlines won't last much longer. With these two incidents although unrelated and there's no rational reason to have to avoid the airline; we don't think rationally and I would be nervous to fly Malaysian.

    Most likely is they'll be taken over by another airline.
    That would be certain if it was privately owned.

    As they are owned by the Malaysian government they may fare better in the long-term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    I think perhaps Malaysian Airlines won't last much longer. With these two incidents although unrelated and there's no rational reason to have to avoid the airline; we don't think rationally and I would be nervous to fly Malaysian.

    Most likely is they'll be taken over by another airline.
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    Another awful tragedy.



    That would be certain if it was privately owned.

    As they are owned by the Malaysian government they may fare better in the long-term.
    All they can do is rename it - "Orchid Airlines" or something like that
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28370863

    It seems they were in trouble without these incidents http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28370863

    You do wonder, if the decision not to avoid this airspace was thus a commercial one? Since other airlines such as British Airways had already chosen not to fly over there.
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    What was the reaction of the international community when the USA shot down that Iranian airliner in 1988?

    Was Reagan accused of being a terrorist/murderer and were sanctions threatened on the US?

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    Since the US accepted responsibility and blame for their error it's not a good comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregor-y View Post
    Since the US accepted responsibility and blame for their error it's not a good comparison.
    But that was much more clear-cut.

    I just doubt that if Putin accepted some responsibility/remorse for this it would make it ok in Western eyes.

    Just glad the Republicans aren't in power at the moment..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    But that was much more clear-cut.

    I just doubt that if Putin accepted some responsibility/remorse for this it would make it ok in Western eyes.
    First, it should never be OK in anybody's eyes. Second, Putin is probably not capable of admitting in public that he made a mistake (giving the separatists modern weapons). Third, his objective is a new Russian empire so anything which furthers that is not an error in his opinion.

    Just glad the Republicans aren't in power at the moment..
    There is a slightly better than 50/50 chance that will change in November.
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