Malaysian Boeing 777 missing

[Malbec]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28370863

It seems they were in trouble without these incidents http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28370863

You do wonder, if the decision not to avoid this airspace was thus a commercial one? Since other airlines such as British Airways had already chosen not to fly over there.

Thats a tad harsh IMO. Most airlines carried on flying over the area and the Ukrainians only warned them not to fly at or below 30,000 ft as the rebels weren't thought to have SAMs capable of reaching higher altitudes. The Malaysians followed all the directives they were given.

It wouldn't surprise me if the rebels at the missile controls making the decisions were drunk at the time, I doubt discipline is their strong point.

One way of resolving this issue is to classify the rebel group as a terrorist organisation, not hard given that they have downed an airliner and prevented access to the crash site. Russia could then be labelled as a state sponsor of terrorism, easy to prove given the level of communication between Moscow and the rebels. This would pave the way to much stronger sanctions which would not require consensus across the EU and US to implement at each step. That would hit the Russian economy hard.

[zako85]

Not everyone who shots down a civilian airliner is a terrorist. Recall the downing of Iran Air Flight 655 and Siberian Airlines 1812. If a civilian aircraft is shot by an accident, then the deaths of civilians should be classified as collateral damage or manslaughter.

When I heard the recording of the rebel conversation where they said "Cossacks just shut down an AN-26", things fell into place for me. Not disrespect, but Cossacks historically been a class of peasant warriors, who are not known for their great finesse so to speak. When I think of Cossacks, words rural, rustic, and xenophobic come into my mind. Historically, they formed infantry and cavalry units within the Russian Empire, USSR, and Russian Federation. These are not the guys I'd want to man a deadly SAM system anywhere.

And overall, knowing Russian and Russian culture, watching the videos of the rebel leaders speak on TV makes me think that these guys have an IQ of about 50.

Here is a recording of the PR disaster when a bunch of Cossack militia men attacked the famous "Pussy Riot" punk group in Sochi who were staging some kind of a music video recording there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrZfluKDrc

The MH17 tragedy as is probably will create some additional political will to introduce harsher sanctions against Russia.

[KKS]

zako85, it's not a that Cossacks as we know from past years (XVII-XVIII). That people named himself a "Cossack" with only one reason - they born at that territory where Cossacks were expelled. And russia propaganda turn on this fact, that it's a true Cossacks and they support Putin.
True Cossacks was Ukranian, and their descendants now fighting with rebels(mercenaries) now at Eastern Ukraine

[COD]

Hmm...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...-20000-4049780

[driveace]

Looks like a HSBC bank employee in Malaysia is trying to drain money and funds from persons who were on the MH370 flight that vanished .The police know who they are and are also checking other passengers who were on the flight,to see their accounts are not drained

[Storm]

Apparently another "incident" happened to Malaysia Air a couple of days ago it seems.. It was in the daily paper here that the co-pilot on a flight from Thailand died while the plane was in the air. The captain did land the plane asap.

truly jinxed.

[Zeakiwi]

Marc Dugain has investigated the 'Maldives location' theories for MH370.
http://www.france24.com/en/20141218-...rcia-cover-up/

Question - how many US Navy ships were in the vicinity of the Maldives in March for a 'cleanup'?

[driveace]

Here we go again ,
An AirAsia Airbus A320 200 series goes missing on a flight from Kuala Lumpar to Singapore with just over 162 passengers and 7 aircrew.
The captain asked for permission to deviate off course due to bad weather .But since then NO emergency call ,or no contact either !Hopefully there can be some wreckage found ,as it's now over 12 hours overdue .Supposed to have a French captain ,but let's pray it's not another Muslim pilot on some mysterious agenda ,The search is abandoned due to failing light.Let's hope something is found quickly as there is still no trace of MH370 !

[donKey jote]

Here we go again ,
,but let's pray it's not another Muslim pilot on some mysterious agenda ,

Yes, here we go again, driveace and his mysterious agenda

[driveace]

Yes, here we go again, driveace and his mysterious agenda

So donkey your assumption on flight MH370 ,seeing as over 9 months has passed with nothing being found ,but to you it will not be a mystery !