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    These arguments after virtually every round are making the WRX a bit of a farce.

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    I just don´t believe that in Monster series judges would favor RedBull driver.

    Problem in this forum is that nearly everyone has their favorite driver and those people almost never see anything wrong with that driver and are always claiming others. To me Johan and Mattias were both better this year than Petter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    It was the final corner before the end of the semi, so nothing was given back.
    Ok, if that was the case and he gained a position then he should have a penalty. These things can be nuanced so every little detail matters. Simply shortcutting isn't always worthy of a penalty unless something was gained by it. Need to see exactly what happened here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Who cares? The big issue is how the hell Ekstrom gets to take shortcuts on the track and not get a penalty. He should have been DQed or had a time penalty. Either way he shouldn't have been in the final at all.

    If shortcuts are now allowed in World RX it will be a pretty interesting season next year.

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    It was good to see that Ekström didn't get any penalty. He was blocked and pushed by VW boys before his shortcut. So, it was a good decision to didn't get him a penalty. But Block's exclusion is a shame for WorldRX. As orange typres by the roadside.

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    Clip here: https://youtu.be/6BfUPjWNk_Q

    Keep in mind that Petter has the right of way, as the others come from the joker. And note that both Petter and JK were capable of stopping for that corner, Ekstrom decided to go flat, almost passing the both of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJan View Post
    I get the feeling that the stewards took into account that he’d been slowed up by Johan and decided that it would spoil the show. I think it was clear that the result of that race was as it should have been. Ekstrom missed his braking because of contact with Petter, that contact only happened because he’d been slowed by JK. If JK doesn’t slow then the result is still JK, ME, PS. So in my mind it was the right result.
    Very weird argument from you here. The leader can drive as fast or slow as he wants. It is up to the other drivers to pass him. If he felt that JK was blocking Ekstrom should have used the jokerlap in a smarter way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    I just don´t believe that in Monster series judges would favor RedBull driver.
    They aren't Monster judges they are IMG judges. And the more controversy the more money IMG can take out of the WRX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Keep in mind that Petter has the right of way, as the others come from the joker. And note that both Petter and JK were capable of stopping for that corner, Ekstrom decided to go flat, almost passing the both of them.
    It's all a bit of a mess. Firstly, possible that Solberg is in Ekstroms blind spot at the merge. Secondly, Petter makes a slight move towards Mattias, that first touch is fair game from my view, racing incident. Thirdly, Ekstrom didn't go flat, the braking just wasn't efficient because his wheels were in the air after the contact with the back of Johan's car. Finally, Petter wasn't stopping either, he used Johan as a brake. The position is given back by default of him being slower but I'll admit that he didn't lift like I thought. All told it's just a bit of carnage and easier to not issue any penalties.

    As far as I know Petter hadn't even complained about it, and he's the one that had most reason to complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lousada View Post
    Very weird argument from you here. The leader can drive as fast or slow as he wants. It is up to the other drivers to pass him. If he felt that JK was blocking Ekstrom should have used the jokerlap in a smarter way.
    Not an argument as such, just what I felt. I wasn't suggesting that what he did was cheating, it just doesn't sit right with me. I've never been a fan of team orders, particularly when championships have already been won, but I do understand why they happen.
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    Also: "Mattias Ekstrom #1, relegated from second to third place in semi-final one for not respecting the priority of the driver on the standard lap at the Joker merge."

    The why the hell did Ekstrom start on row two of the grid in the final, and Petter on row three?

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