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    Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)

    Quote Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
    worst-ever business plan made by Prodrive. Anyone remembering how bad and unprofessional was it?
    True, Prodrive failed this project on their own. Hopes and dreams is not the way to do it.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)

    Quote Originally Posted by Motorsportfun

    Oleksii told me he has big partners behind him and ready to step in, they're just waiting a green light from MG. It's all in place. I noticed quite big differences with worst-ever business plan made by Prodrive. Anyone remembering how bad and unprofessional was it?

    If you wanna start a project, you should have already money in place, not hoping to gather all necessary when car is already homologated and championship starting in less than a month...
    The Mini project wasn't that bad or unprofessional. Ok, Prodrive was unable to get sponsors (maybe believing that BMW could be as generous as Subaru was in their time) but at least has manage to build a car with technical potential.

    It'd be great to see Mr.Tamrazov undertake his WRC project with MG or any other brand, but it'd also be nice to know who are is technical partners.
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    Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power
    The Mini project wasn't that bad or unprofessional. Ok, Prodrive was unable to get sponsors (maybe believing that BMW could be as generous as Subaru was in their time) but at least has manage to build a car with technical potential.
    Prodrive was doing this project MAINLY for digging money from BMW...

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    Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power
    The Mini project wasn't that bad or unprofessional. Ok, Prodrive was unable to get sponsors (maybe believing that BMW could be as generous as Subaru was in their time) but at least has manage to build a car with technical potential.
    Let me say this "fisherman" approach, with a brand-new WRC car as "lure" and hoping to get on board some fresh cash from BMW, yeah, that was very unprofessional. That's not a good example to plan a big investment over some years.

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    Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)

    One would like to see MG driving this project – as opposed to a guy with financial backing; hoping they’ll agree. Not a good start in my book.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power
    The Mini project wasn't that bad or unprofessional. Ok, Prodrive was unable to get sponsors (maybe believing that BMW could be as generous as Subaru was in their time) but at least has manage to build a car with technical potential.
    Prodrive's recent history has been littered with complete disasters left, right and centre. They mismanaged the Mini project, but they have done worse - they tried to enter Formula 1 in 2008, but their bid hinged on controversial rule changes that needed the unanimous approval of the existing teams, who predictably disagreed with them. And then there was the Aston Martin AMR-One, an LMP1 prototype that looked like a submarine, handed like a submarine, and was so slow that they might have been better off trying to race a submarine.

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    Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)

    This shows that doing both racing and rally at the top FIS level is a hard exercise within one organisation, that need to earn money to survive!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prodrive

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    Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)

    Once is an accident, and twice is coincidence, but three times is a pattern. Prodrive tried to enter Formula 1 and failed, built a car for Me Mans that was embarrassingly inept, and blew the Mini project through mismanagement. It's one thing to fall short of the financial hurdle, and taken individually, you could reasonably write any one of these three episodes off as Prodrive trying to bite off more than they could chew. But when they have three major projects that end in three spectacular failures, serious questions have to be asked about the way the company is being run.

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    Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)

    Quote Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
    Once is an accident, and twice is coincidence, but three times is a pattern. Prodrive tried to enter Formula 1 and failed, built a car for Me Mans that was embarrassingly inept, and blew the Mini project through mismanagement. It's one thing to fall short of the financial hurdle, and taken individually, you could reasonably write any one of these three episodes off as Prodrive trying to bite off more than they could chew. But when they have three major projects that end in three spectacular failures, serious questions have to be asked about the way the company is being run.
    Don´t apply this on Huyndai - yet...
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    Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)

    Looks good for latvala so far...

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