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    He is top tier in the ERC but i think he doesn't have to offer something special in the WRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    He is top tier in the ERC but i think he doesn't have to offer something special in the WRC.
    With the greatest of respect, from where else will the next generation of non paying drivers come from? Abbring stood out from the beginning of last year and several of us knew he would have the upper hand in the PSA bag of bolts he was given. Lappi was the only other shining light from the ERC last year, but has too much of an erratic nature despite blindingly obvious speed. I look forward to Keith Cronins appearance in Portugal in WRC2 for what its worth. A genuine talent,

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    unfortunately if you do not have money you have to be exceptionally talented to survive in the sport, only Loeb managed that and Ogier who got support from their country's federation.

    It is good that Abbring gets his chance since he is still young but i just do not see any big things coming from him... we will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    unfortunately if you do not have money you have to be exceptionally talented to survive in the sport, only Loeb managed that and Ogier who got support from their country's federation.

    It is good that Abbring gets his chance since he is still young but i just do not see any big things coming from him... we will see.
    Well, Neuville had no money either... For Abbring time will tell, in my opinion he's one of the most talented drivers that isn't at top of WRC yet. He showed to be quickest on every ERC event last year before retiring each time with mechanical failure, next logical step for him is WRC. But I'm afraid his program this year (5 events) is too limited to really develop himself in a WRC car.

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    Mechanical failures sometimes come up depending on how to use your material. Be fast and brake your car down. Be smooth and finnish. Here we are again in this useless discussion.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

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    open a kevin abbring thread, this is news & rumours

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Mechanical failures sometimes come up depending on how to use your material. Be fast and brake your car down. Be smooth and finnish. Here we are again in this useless discussion.
    Abbring drives quite smooth, sure not as brutal as Breen, but he will never be Finnish.

    Electronical failure and engine failure doesn't have much to do with the driver I think... A reliable Peugeot 208 T16 is something that didn't exist yet last year, and I'm very surprised to see they are proving much more reliable now.

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    Check this out: http://www.rallye-magazin.de/wm/nach...en-titelkampf/

    If google translated well Matton said that after 2017 they need a top driver in Citroen: one between Ogier, Neuville, Latvala and Mikkelsen.
    Otherwise they won't win a world championship "and we are running for that". (does that mean, or we have a top driver or we say bye bye? Or they are just going to spend money for a top driver?)

    Do you think they will take one of that four?
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    Abu dhabi team should stop spreading stupid PR blah blah.... we have enough of that form m-sport.

    They do not have the money to produce a proper evolution of their car and they consider evolution the new plastics they added.... how will they afford ogier or any driver ??

    It is a pity to see that such a dominant team deteriorated into a dying fleabag dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    Abu dhabi team should stop spreading stupid PR blah blah.... we have enough of that form m-sport.

    They do not have the money to produce a proper evolution of their car and they consider evolution the new plastics they added.... how will they afford ogier or any driver ??

    It is a pity to see that such a dominant team deteriorated into a dying fleabag dog.
    They're out of WTCC at the end of this year, that's how they afford it....

    So the rumour goes, any way.

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